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    vgnjhd Bronze Member
    last edited by vgnjhd 9 Aug 2021, 14:54 8 Sept 2021, 14:52

    After years of love and hate relationship with Suunto as of tomorrow (waiting for delivery) going for Garmin 6 Pro solar.
    Will give my old Suunto Ambit 3 Peak to someone who might still enjoy its last hear beats as a charity.

    Watch
    Model : Suunto Ambit 3 Peak HR (since 2016)
    FW: 2.4.17

    Phone
    Model : Google Pixel
    Android -v : 10
    SA: 4.45.x

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      Bulkan Moderator
      last edited by 8 Sept 2021, 16:55

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        Patrick Löffler Silver Members @vgnjhd
        last edited by 8 Sept 2021, 18:45

        @vgnjhd What are your reasons? I do not want to lower your excitement but the 19.20 firmware update process for the Fenix is bumpy and this seems to me getting the new normal at Garmin.

        Apple Watch Ultra (currently on my wrist)
        Thinking about going back to Suunto 9 Peak

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          ChrisA Platinum Member @Patrick Löffler
          last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 07:04

          @patrick-löffler yes, they’re not good at that. The new update for my wife’s Venu 2 is awful too, causing frequent restarts and black screens…

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            A Former User @Patrick Löffler
            last edited by A Former User 9 Sept 2021, 08:02 9 Sept 2021, 07:47

            @patrick-löffler said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

            @vgnjhd What are your reasons? I do not want to lower your excitement but the 19.20 firmware update process for the Fenix is bumpy and this seems to me getting the new normal at Garmin.

            Honestly more and more I understand that there are no perfect brands, regarding models, only the ambits were perfect heheh
            Regarding the instability of garmin, yes it is known.
            On the 945 LTE there are small ( and big bugs) that almost seems impossible that a device gets out to the market like that…

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            Here 945 vs 945 lte on the right…with heart rate number being minuscule…
            but it has other advantages…specialy regarding customizability. And I think sometimes it makes you “forget” the bugs. Depends on the uses…and needs.
            Regarding the fenix 6, I had a 6s sapphire and I think it was stable, it was just unconfortable for me.
            For Suunto I guess the stability is better, construction also, but missing some customization and features. And sometimes it “annoys” some users, because you can see those features even in cheaper garmins.
            So the best is to have both 😁

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              surfboomerang @Guest
              last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 09:19

              @andré-faria Personally I prefer a stable watch with less features then a buggy one with tons of features.
              The first one I can trust what I have and what I can expect. The other one… well, I think I would go to a casino if I want a gamble.

              Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
              OnePlus Nord 4

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                A Former User @surfboomerang
                last edited by A Former User 9 Sept 2021, 09:24 9 Sept 2021, 09:23

                @surfboomerang said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

                @andré-faria Personally I prefer a stable watch with less features then a buggy one with tons of features.
                The first one I can trust what I have and what I can expect. The other one… well, I think I would go to a casino if I want a gamble.

                Yes, but maybe someone prefers the other way around. Depends on what features are not working well/stable and which ones you need.
                For someone that bought a 9 peak because of asthetics, weight and a bit to be a “fitness tracker” and do some sports, maybe it annoys them to have the resources bug, and to not have customization of watchfaces.
                For someone that is an avid hiker, maybe it annoys that garmin have/had some altitude bugs…

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                  surfboomerang @Guest
                  last edited by 9 Sept 2021, 09:26

                  @andré-faria True, as long as those features and bugs don’t interfere with each other. For example I don’t want a huge battery drain or crashes because some feature I don’t use are bugging in the background and thus are interfering with the features I do use.

                  Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
                  OnePlus Nord 4

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                    philippe makowski @sartoric
                    last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 13:29

                    @sartoric said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

                    Ambit 3 can be paired to Suunto App … but as you’ve already decided … farewell

                    I tried, many times, no success.
                    Suunto is leaving me with a Ambit3 Peak with less functionality.
                    I can’t upload routes and download tracks.
                    At least Garmin allow me to simply connect it as usb device mounted as a disk, so I can do it.
                    The Suunto App is a nightmare, it lost connection each time.
                    And I don’t want to use a “smartphone”.

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @philippe makowski
                      last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 13:33

                      @philippe-makowski This is not true with the release of Suuntolink 4. Could you respond in the other post and actually try to use the new release before making the statements. I have an Ambit3 Peak and it is working just fine with the new Suuntolink.

                      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                        philippe makowski @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 13:40

                        @brad_olwin and how do create a account ?
                        “Note: You can only Log in with an already created Suunto app account (see above). You cannot create a new account in SuuntoLink.”

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                          A Former User @philippe makowski
                          last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 13:43

                          @philippe-makowski said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

                          @brad_olwin and how do create a account ?
                          “Note: You can only Log in with an already created Suunto app account (see above). You cannot create a new account in SuuntoLink.”

                          I think @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos may help you.

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                            Mff73 @philippe makowski
                            last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 13:59

                            @philippe-makowski
                            working great with my Ambit1.
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                            and to create an account, either you may find a smartphone, install the app, create and uninstall, or you could try to create one in https://www.sports-tracker.com/ (which is not SuuntoApp web management, but it could do the trick (i guess, never tried)).
                            Just workarounds ideas, not perfect solutions though, but…

                            Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                            Suunto Vertical all black
                            Wife : S9PP
                            SA: Always the latest beta :)
                            Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                              Fenr1r @Mff73
                              last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 14:02

                              @mff73 Interesting.

                              S4-created modes? Imported from MC? Copied from watch?

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                                Mff73 @Fenr1r
                                last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 14:08

                                @fenr1r said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

                                @mff73 Interesting.

                                S4-created modes? Imported from MC? Copied from watch?

                                don’t know if it is cloud settings saved from MC or read directly from watch 😞

                                Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                Suunto Vertical all black
                                Wife : S9PP
                                SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                Android 13, Galaxy S205G

                                Dimitrios KanellopoulosD 1 Reply Last reply 30 Nov 2021, 15:47 Reply Quote -1
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                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Mff73
                                  last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 15:47

                                  @mff73 no mc connection anymore that’s it.

                                  Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
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                                    A Former User @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                    last edited by A Former User 30 Nov 2021, 16:16

                                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos but it is still there in watches menu for my Ambit. Is it safe if I remove the watch from SuuntoLink and re-add it without Movescount account?

                                    BTW, great update. Thank you Suunto devs.

                                    Dimitrios KanellopoulosD 1 Reply Last reply 30 Nov 2021, 16:19 Reply Quote 0
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                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
                                      last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 16:19

                                      @andrasveres correct. Sorry I mean no more connection for getting sport modes etc.

                                      Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                                      Creator of Quantified-Self.io
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                                        Mff73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 16:33

                                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Goodbye Suunto, hello Garmin:

                                        @mff73 no mc connection anymore that’s it.

                                        clear, thanks.
                                        I imagine that sportsmode are read by SL from watch, then SL UI let us manipulate, and send back to watch ? No suunto cloud savings ?

                                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                                        Suunto Vertical all black
                                        Wife : S9PP
                                        SA: Always the latest beta :)
                                        Android 13, Galaxy S205G

                                        Dimitrios KanellopoulosD pavel.samokhaP 2 Replies Last reply 30 Nov 2021, 16:53 Reply Quote 2
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                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Mff73
                                          last edited by 30 Nov 2021, 16:53

                                          @mff73 I don’t know to answer that from the top of my head. Maybe Pavel can 😅

                                          Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                                          Creator of Quantified-Self.io
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