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    Charles Yang
    last edited by 8 Feb 2019, 19:32

    I’m a Spartan user, difference with most users is I just use this watch as a GPS recorder.

    Now, I use Movescount and Suunto App together. But only Movescount can export the GPX file from my watch. As all we knows, the Movescount will discontinued on 2020. export GPX file is only feature that I used Movescount not Suunto App.

    I want change to Suunto App, because it’s new and easy to use.

    Before you added this feature in the future, I must sync with Movescount first, and fully end the Movescount. Then sync with Suunto App. If not, the activity will NEVER sync with Movescount, that means I can’t export GPX file anymore.

    Please add the feature in the Suunto App that I can export my GPX file directly.

    Thanks.

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      Pierangelo
      last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 08:42

      I agree.
      It’s also important to be able to Import GPX or TCX files as a move (now it’s only possible to create a route)

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
        last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 08:53

        why do you need a GPX over a FIT file?

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          Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 09:56

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos FIT is the common format for exercise-focussed records: navigation-focussed programs do not all import/open them natively by any means.

          No one wants an extra conversion stage (with attendant risks) onto or off the watch … particularly as one ex-Suunto export/import process will already be mandatory for big-screen planners/reviewers.

          Reasonably modern GPX files are not stripped-down FITs: each can contain multiple routes, tracks and POIs.

          It’s an opportunity for Suunto to catch up with GPX standards and perhaps mitigate the fallout from MC closure rather than a weird niche provision.

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
            last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 18 Feb 2020, 10:42

            @Fenr1r I dont get it, there is GPX for routes support in the app. (export)

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              Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by Fenr1r 18 Feb 2020, 11:30

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos We might be running into terminology confusion here. I was answering (conceptually)

              why do you need a GPX over a FIT file?

              Otherwise, does the app export watch-recorded track GPXes as well as app-created routes? That seems to be one of the OP’s requirements.

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
                last edited by 18 Feb 2020, 11:35

                @Fenr1r The app exports:

                GPX:

                • Workouts as routes
                • Routes created in the app

                FIT:

                • Workouts

                Now I do understand that one would want a workout as GPX but GPX is a very very bad format for workouts. I can debate in detail over this, but mainly it misses lot of the data, pauses, etc, let aside that is TreeBased format (XML) that well, does not fit with activity data. For example take a tunnel. A tunnel can have HR data, altitude data but no GPS data. GPX files do not play well with that.

                Opinion wise (personal) I would avoid GPX files for transferring any data between services, except if that is a route.

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                  Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                  last edited by Fenr1r 18 Feb 2020, 11:53

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I bow to your knowledge of workout/activity formats but I think the OP wants track records (i.e., the gpx containing a limited list of relative time-stamped sat-fixes [pref 3D] with header containing start time) so HR data and mid-tunnel altitude aren’t necessarily necessary. Using the watch in this way values location as currency, not biological monitoring. Pauses may be of less (if any) significance.

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                    kukubau @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by kukubau 29 Jun 2020, 12:03

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                    I just wanted to chime in as I am unable to export my last workout to GPX format. I’ve read all your comments and the pros vs. the cons. I do need the option to save my workouts/moves as *.GPX not just as *FIT.

                    In the three dots (…) dialog I have the

                    Edit
                    Save Route
                    Export as FIT file
                    Cancel

                    options available.

                    I was able to export the move as *.FIT, however, when I tried to import it in Movescount, I got this error message:
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                    @2nd, you stated in other comments that choosing the Save option, one would be able to save it as a *.GPX file. After confirming the Save, by pressing the DONE button, I am shown another dialog to enter the route’s name, but by choosing to SAVE I did NOT get another dialog to browse to the save location and to save the file.

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                    No other file was created on my iphone (iphone 7 ios 13.6), Suunto app v.1.40.0

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                      isazi Moderator @kukubau
                      last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 12:05

                      @kukubau after you save the route, you can press “share” and download the GPX. At least it works on Android.

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                        kukubau @isazi
                        last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 12:06

                        @isazi

                        Thanks, but this option is missing on ios and looks like an ios bug.

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                          DavorP @kukubau
                          last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 12:41

                          @kukubau
                          You can try with online tool, like:

                          https://www.alltrails.com/converter

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @kukubau
                            last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 12:46

                            @kukubau I am sure it’s not missing :-d

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @kukubau
                              last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 13:15

                              @kukubau It is not missing, use the share button to share a link to the activity, from the link you can download a gpx file.

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                                kukubau @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 13:42

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos For me it’s missing. Below are consecutive screenshots, trying all options.

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                                  isazi Moderator @kukubau
                                  last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 13:46

                                  @kukubau that’s your activity though. Did you make a route out of it first?

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @kukubau
                                    last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 13:53

                                    @kukubau create a route , name it

                                    Go to your routes -> share -> copy link (has download for the GPX)

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                                      sartoric Moderator @kukubau
                                      last edited by sartoric 29 Jun 2020, 14:02

                                      @kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                                      I just wanted to chime in as I am unable to export my last workout to GPX format.

                                      @isazi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                      I guess his problem is this one

                                      So definitely the wrong thread 😁

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                                        kukubau @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                        last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 14:43

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                                        @kukubau create a route , name it

                                        Go to your routes -> share -> copy link (has download for the GPX)

                                        You didn’t understand my issue. I want to export my previous activity to *.GPX format from within the Suunto app (like saving the *.FIT file) as I was able to do from Movescount due to the fact that is no SuuntoLink web based application and Movescount will be discontinued.

                                        Having the *.FIT save option available, it is a matter of common sense, for the development team to offer the user the option to save the activity to a generally accepted format like *.GPX.

                                        @isazi said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                                        @kukubau that’s your activity though. Did you make a route out of it first?

                                        It defies the purpose.

                                        @sartoric said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                                        @kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                                        I just wanted to chime in as I am unable to export my last workout to GPX format.

                                        @isazi @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                        I guess his problem is this one

                                        So definitely the wrong thread 😁

                                        @sartoric
                                        Yes, that’s my problem and no this is not the wrong thread.

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                                          kukubau @kukubau
                                          last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 14:47

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                          Why would I want to create a new route to copy an already performed activity to be able to save it as *.GPX?!? This is user unfriendly and very counter intuitive.
                                          On the other hand, route creation has its purpose, I will not deny it.

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