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    borgelkranz Bronze Member
    last edited by 18 Aug 2019, 16:10

    Hi,

    SA offered me to connect to Movescount to fetch my moves. I did so and received a message that the import was succesful.

    Now I checked the number of moves in SA’s logbook and see that I have many duplicates.

    I am sure that this (in part) is my fault. When I stopped to use Movescount in February 2019 I used Movescount’s functionality to export all my moves and somehow (I don’t remember how) transferred them to SA via SyncMyTracks.

    Is there a way to export my moves made exlusively in SA to start from scratch? Or will there be a functionality to remove duplicates?

    Some numbers (Moves in Movescount/SA):

    • 2012 - 52/52
    • 2013 - 59/62
    • 2014 - 45/44
    • 2015 - 83/107
    • 2016 - 131/200
    • 2017 - 180/353
    • 2018 - 107/185
    D 1 Reply Last reply 18 Aug 2019, 20:28 Reply Quote 2
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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @borgelkranz
      last edited by 18 Aug 2019, 20:28

      @borgelkranz yeah if another service was used duplicates may happen.

      You can delete the SA account and we can renenable the history import for your new account. However, this might take a while.

      If you want todo so, first pm me your email for MC, I ll give you a date of “reset” and then you can delete the sa account ,create a new one and thus import again all from MC

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        borgelkranz Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
        last edited by 19 Aug 2019, 06:55

        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Ist there a possibility to export my 2019-data from SA to re-import it into a new account? Otherwise I would loose the data that I keep exclusively in SA…

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
          last edited by 19 Aug 2019, 08:39

          Nope unfortunately

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            borgelkranz Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by 19 Aug 2019, 11:47

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Oh my, this seriously sucks…

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              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @borgelkranz
              last edited by 19 Aug 2019, 11:51

              @borgelkranz perhaps try the ST web ?

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                borgelkranz Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by 19 Aug 2019, 12:38

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I’ll give it a try. Hopefully they have a bulk delete…

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                  borgelkranz Bronze Member @borgelkranz
                  last edited by 19 Aug 2019, 13:02

                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos It is as I feared. They do not have a bulk delete. They “advise” the following:

                  To remove duplicates:
                  Suunto app: Open the move, tap on Edit in the upper right corner, tap Delete workout.
                  Sports Tracker: Open the workout, tap on Edit in the upper right corner, tap Delete workout.

                  Serious? That are two to three clicks per move. So for 823 moves that are at least 1646 clicks. What did Camus say: “We must imagine Sisyphus as happy”…

                  Or according to the German Binse: “There is no use crying about spilt milk…”

                  Luckily I have a job and three kids and can think of better ways to spend my time.

                  Thanks for the help though!

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                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @borgelkranz
                    last edited by 19 Aug 2019, 13:05

                    @borgelkranz By using the ST WEb I would :

                    • Open each dup in a new tab
                    • Go to each tab and delete that one

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                      martin Bronze Member
                      last edited by 20 Aug 2019, 10:55

                      I had some duplicates too, only on activities that were both synced to MC and SA and where I had added some pictures on the SA side…
                      Beware when you open activities in new tabs to delete, becaus after deletion, the closest activity is displayed, which you might end up deleting as well (happened to me once)…

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                        borgelkranz Bronze Member @martin
                        last edited by borgelkranz 20 Aug 2019, 11:18

                        @martin Thanks for the advice. I already found that out the hard way… Additionally, I found that it was really difficult to decide, which move to delete. That’s why I removed every move and plan to re-import from Movescount once @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos paved the way to repeat the history import from MC. ☺

                        Most of the duplicates differed in description or cadence. It somehow felt systematic but on further inspection didn’t seem to be so…

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                          Egika Platinum Member
                          last edited by 21 Aug 2019, 03:37

                          Same here. All moves with pictures addded in SA have been duplicated.
                          It would have been nice if there was an algorithm checking the starting and ending time of the move and then disregard it…

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Egika
                            last edited by 21 Aug 2019, 06:18

                            @Egika that is what is happening. However did you modify anything or use some sync software?

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                              martin Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                              last edited by 21 Aug 2019, 09:26

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                              For each of the activities that I had added photos to in SA, the equivalent MC move was imported.
                              Neither were modified, except the addition of pics in SA.
                              Fortunately I don’t have that much moves with pics added, and there is a calendar view in ST (web), that allows to see easily the days with multiple same sport activities. At that level, nothing beats a big screen (web interface is definitely compulsory !).

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                last edited by 21 Aug 2019, 09:51

                                Dio you have links for me ?

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                                  martin Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 21 Aug 2019, 12:26

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                  Unfortunately I spent sometime yesterday removing all the duplicates… so none left… there probably was between 20 and 30 in my case. If useful I can direct you to SA/ST ones and MC equivalent, though everything being private you might no be able to see anything ?

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                                    Egika Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                    last edited by 21 Aug 2019, 13:25

                                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                    No extra software. Just synced activities to both MC and SA for some time.
                                    Example:
                                    With pics in SA:
                                    https://app.suunto.com/move/martin30721/5b68ad270f3e494aa8136965?imageId=5b6b661c0f3e4947450d0fba

                                    Duplicated from MC:
                                    https://app.suunto.com/move/martin30721/5d5c706d17773f0006575f77

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                                      borgelkranz Bronze Member @Egika
                                      last edited by borgelkranz 21 Aug 2019, 15:10

                                      @Egika Out of curiosity I had a look and noticed that some of the data is different too. Duration, Ascent, Descent and Max.Speed differ, don’t they?

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                                        jsuarez Bronze Member
                                        last edited by 22 Aug 2019, 10:06

                                        There should be a way to select up to what date you want to import the moves from MC. This way, if you have continuously imported moves into SA from that certain date, no duplicates would happen.

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                                          Egika Platinum Member @borgelkranz
                                          last edited by 22 Aug 2019, 19:36

                                          @borgelkranz Yes, this is strange enough. As the only thing I have done is sync the same move first to MC and then to SA.
                                          No idea why it would come up with different data…

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