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    Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???????

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    • Kurt68K Offline
      Kurt68
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      I can only agree with you 👍

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        jsuarez Bronze Member
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        This should not be only for Sx models, but also Spartans. There was a previous thread where this was discussed but was locked due to apparent lack of interest (or low priority by Suunto).

        To me serious structured interval training and keeping movescount web around are the only two things I need from Suunto. I don’t care for anything else.

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          https://forum.suunto.com/post/38014

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          • sartoricS Offline
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            As far as I remember, MC doesn’t have structured workouts as discussed in the “locked topic”
            There is only activity planning

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              margusl @sartoric
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              @sartoric , yes it [the app] does.
              https://www.suunto.com/Support/Product-support/suunto_ambit3_peak/suunto_ambit3_peak/features/interval-workouts/
              https://www.google.com/search?q=suunto+workout+planner

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                Kurt68
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                totally incomprehensible that Suunto sees no priority in it. Every ambitious athlete uses structured intervals.

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                  goncalot3 @margusl
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                  @margusl I also have the AMBIT3 PEAK watch.
                  But i bought “a better one” and i think this is a key trainning. The suunto 9 has a structured workout, but we can only make, for example, 3x400 with 1.5minutes interval. Nothing else. If we want to make another training like 6x800m we have to stop the watch. and start over. It’s the minimal stupid.

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                    margusl @goncalot3
                    last edited by margusl

                    @goncalot3, it was just a reply to sartoric.

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                      fejker Gold Members @margusl
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                      @margusl said in Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???:

                      @sartoric , yes it [the app] does.
                      https://www.suunto.com/Support/Product-support/suunto_ambit3_peak/suunto_ambit3_peak/features/interval-workouts/
                      https://www.google.com/search?q=suunto+workout+planner

                      As far as I know, we have interval training, but not structured intervals, which is basically interval training on steroids.
                      Interval training as it exists on the watch allows you to set times for a simple on-off training with repetitions. For example:

                      • 3 min warm-up (20% - 50% FTP)
                        do this before triggering the interval training
                      • 6 x (2 min 70% FTP + 20 sec 100% FTP)
                        trigger the set interval training with OFF-ON interval - Suunto won’t even let us switch these, it is always ON-OFF for Suunto and these intervals look funny in summary and description
                      • 3 min cool-down (50% - 20% FTP)
                        switch interval training off

                      A structured interval training lets you mix up things and do something like this:

                      • 5 min warm-up
                      • 30 sec effort / 3 min recovery
                      • 30 sec effort / 3 min recovery
                      • 30 sec effort / 2,5 min recovery
                      • 30 sec effort / 2,5 min recovery
                      • 30 sec effort / 2 min recovery
                      • 30 sec effort / 2 min recovery
                      • 30 sec effort / 1,5 min recovery
                      • 30 sec effort / 1,5 min recovery
                      • 6 min cool-down

                      These are just simple examples, I have plenty where these came from and use them for my cycling training. Right now I have to resort to a phone app to do these as my Spartan is of no use here at the moment.

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                        fejker Gold Members @goncalot3
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                        @goncalot3 said in Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???:

                        @margusl I also have the AMBIT3 PEAK watch.
                        But i bought “a better one” and i think this is a key trainning. The suunto 9 has a structured workout, but we can only make, for example, 3x400 with 1.5minutes interval. Nothing else. If we want to make another training like 6x800m we have to stop the watch. and start over. It’s the minimal stupid.

                        No, Suunto 9 does not have structured workouts, only simple interval training, read my post above.

                        SHUT UP LEGS!
                        -Jens Voigt

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                          margusl @fejker
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                          @fejker said in Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???:

                          @margusl said in Structured Workouts in Suunto App for SUUNTO 9 Onwards watches - When???:

                          @sartoric , yes it [the app] does.
                          https://www.suunto.com/Support/Product-support/suunto_ambit3_peak/suunto_ambit3_peak/features/interval-workouts/
                          https://www.google.com/search?q=suunto+workout+planner

                          As far as I know, we have interval training, but not structured intervals, which is basically interval training on steroids.

                          well, I got bit carried away. Should have been: “MC app does have support for real structured intervals, but only for Ambit3.” or something like that.

                          MC current implementation might be bit cumbersome for building e.g pyramids or structures where you don’t have constant targets through repeats (decreasing recovery time from your example), but it’s still a great solution. Whoever designed that UI/UX should be awarded (no sarcasm) and I never really understood why that gem was hidden away in the the app like this. And why it was never accessible though MC web. It’s like they didn’t want too many people to actually use it …

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                            goncalot3 @fejker
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                            @fejker I know that. My question is WHY and WHEN THIS watch have this update.
                            Does not make sense.
                            What i what with this post is alert SUUNTO.

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                              fejker Gold Members @goncalot3
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                              @goncalot3 trust me, they have been “alerted” many times and many years. It is until people stop buying their watches, they will finally realize how they are wrong.

                              SHUT UP LEGS!
                              -Jens Voigt

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                                andrewjknox Bronze Member
                                last edited by andrewjknox

                                It’s the number one (edit: actually the only thing) thing I’m missing, for now I just wear an old Polar watch on the other wrist when the complexity of the workout means I frequently look down at my watch and do some arithmetic 🙂

                                To be fair, I never checked to see if the feature was available before I bought it, I kind of assumed it was going to be there, d’oh!

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                                  Luís Pinto Platinum Member @goncalot3
                                  last edited by Luís Pinto

                                  @goncalot3 i respect that Suunto don’t want bring SI for their models. I think it is a error, but ok. But the actual solution with Simple intervals is incomplete. I think that is not so much work to add in watch the possibility to custom assymetric values distance/time. Then exist a one more possibility, import from other platforms like TP a workout, like @Brad_Olwin in past show as possibility.

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                                    amasidlover Bronze Member
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                                    If/when I replace my Ambit3 it won’t be with a Suunto watch unless this has been implemented - even the ability to import workouts would be adequate as I can create them in Trainingpeaks. I do wonder if Suunto are considering something like an auto-import from Trainingpeaks instead of interval creation in the app/web - with the ‘gold partner’ scheme they have for 3rd party systems.

                                    If not then something like Sigma’s ID.Tri is looking very tempting as a replacement.

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                                      goncalot3 @Luís Pinto
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                                      @Luís-Pinto I don’t have TP and i don’t have to have some app that i have to buy to do somethink that a SPORTWATCH should do.

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                                        fleshymutant Silver Members
                                        last edited by fleshymutant

                                        The web interface and structured intervals were (and still are) the first and second requested features if you sorted by votes… well you can see how much progress has been made on either of those…

                                        🤔

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                                        • Saketo NemoS Offline
                                          Saketo Nemo Moderator
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                                          Really?
                                          a simple search on the forum could have produced this result: https://forum.suunto.com/post/38014

                                          Among the information material of suunto, related to 9, you have not found references to structured training, so I do not see why you have to raise the voice for a function that you want but has not been declared available. There are a thousand other watches that have that function, if needed, buy one of those. Just pollute this forum with structured trainings, if Suunto hasn’t done them so far there’s a reason. You may like it or not, but it’s a fact.

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                                            jsuarez Bronze Member
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                                            I think I agree with most of the posters above. I really cannot understand why Suunto is thinking about Triathlon sport mode and not be aware that any decent Triathloner will be thinking about doing some complex interval training. I really don’t think there is so much complexity in coding that in the firmware…

                                            To me Suunto neglecting this area is really inconceivable.

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