When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?

LudovicTheRunner · 2 Dec 2019, 13:16

I would like to know when the Ambit 3 Peak will transition to the Suunto app ?
Nothing seems to be shared as of today and I’m afraid answer will be “never”.
I’ve tried to synchronize it in July but it was a disaster.

Could you answer to this question ?

Thanks a lot

Hitesh Aggarwal · 2 Dec 2019, 14:22

I am also facing the same issue with my Ambit 3 Peak. The new Suunto App has got good interface but our watch is not at all compatible with it. It is really disgusting. I have decided to use Movescount till Suunto resolves all the issue.

LudovicTheRunner · 2 Dec 2019, 15:13

yes, me too, but I’m not confident at all regarding our watch as Suunto doesn’t communicate at all on it.

freeheeler · 2 Dec 2019, 15:34

@LudovicTheRunner
did you guys found this?
https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Content-pages/digital-service-transition/

LudovicTheRunner · 2 Dec 2019, 15:39

@TELE-HO said in When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?:

@LudovicTheRunner
did you guys found this?
https://www.suunto.com/en-gb/Content-pages/digital-service-transition/

Sure I did. The ambit 3 peak isn’t mentionned. 30rd of April I did receive an email announcing a “transition” to a new app…and that I had to wait for a new message form Suunto as soon as they will be ready to migrate my Ambit 3 peak. Still waiting…

freeheeler · 2 Dec 2019, 15:42

@LudovicTheRunner
I think they don’t know themselves yet either about the integration as Ambit as a bluetooth watch should be ready to be setup in SA but then there are still no Ambit apps…
Since A2 and A1 have no bluetooth they need to keep a minimum of MC anyway to support them from the settings and apps side…

I hope for all A3 users that SA integration will cover it all one day

Antonio Dávila González · 2 Dec 2019, 16:24

Hello, I’m a user of Ambit 3 Peak.

A few months ago I tried to transfer my movescount data to Suunto App, it didn’t work. But a few weeks ago I realized that all my moves had been transferred to Suunto App without having done anything new.

LudovicTheRunner · 2 Dec 2019, 17:02

Weird isn’t it ? How can we trust Suunto ? I can’t afford (read "don’t want) to loose at least one move

isazi · 3 Dec 2019, 01:04

@Antonio-Dávila-González the move of your activities from MC to SA takes some days to complete, so you probably assume it didn’t work while it just wasn’t done yet.

LudovicTheRunner · 3 Dec 2019, 07:59

@isazi said in When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?:

@Antonio-Dávila-González the move of your activities from MC to SA takes some days to complete, so you probably assume it didn’t work while it just wasn’t done yet.

I don’t really understand why it’s so long? It seems we don’t have any progress bar to monitor where the process is.

freeheeler · 3 Dec 2019, 08:01

@LudovicTheRunner
it is development work and while I don’t know details for IT development I know by own experience that in general in a development you suddenly face issues you have never ever thought about… if they promise a timeline they create unnecessary pressure and hence maybe a faulty product.

isazi · 3 Dec 2019, 09:54

@LudovicTheRunner it’s probably a batch process, not an interactive one, so it takes time. You have two different databases (each of them surely made up by many processes and computing nodes), and different structures for tables, and to avoid messing up the data and maintain consistency they may have to do quite some processing.

LudovicTheRunner · 3 Dec 2019, 09:58

@isazi said in When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?:

@LudovicTheRunner it’s probably a batch process, not an interactive one, so it takes time. You have two different databases (each of them surely made up by many processes and computing nodes), and different structures for tables, and to avoid messing up the data and maintain consistency they may have to do quite some processing.

ok, but if I’m not mistaken the data are not on the watch itself but on the cloud…so as we don’t talk about billions of data, I’m surprised it takes so long. If they try to synchronize from the watch, this is a big mistake…

isazi · 3 Dec 2019, 09:59

@LudovicTheRunner the watch is definitely not involved in this process.

margusl · 3 Dec 2019, 10:36

@LudovicTheRunner said in When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?:

I don’t really understand why it’s so long?

it costs extra. For real - while data storage is cheap, processing and accessing it in large chunks in minutes vs days makes a huge difference. Especially if the master plan is to move all users to a new platform in a certain timeframe and some of those users have had around 10 years to build that dataset. Suunto does not serve MC from a rack in their office, they use Amazon’s cloud service instead.

mbga9pgf · 3 Dec 2019, 13:33

Still don’t understand why Suunto refuse to release “legacy” product protocols to allow freeware third party development… or even develop their own.

Would be happy to store data on a desktop, then the cost of storage and processing is no longer a Suunto issue.

LudovicTheRunner · 3 Dec 2019, 14:29

@margusl said in When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?:

@LudovicTheRunner said in When Ambit 3 Peak will transition to Suunto APP?:

I don’t really understand why it’s so long?

it costs extra. For real - while data storage is cheap, processing and accessing it in large chunks in minutes vs days makes a huge difference. Especially if the master plan is to move all users to a new platform in a certain timeframe and some of those users have had around 10 years to build that dataset. Suunto does not serve MC from a rack in their office, they use Amazon’s cloud service instead.

I’m working in IT science industry and have experienced how difficult it is to move large buch of data.
BUT, definitely, storing moves doesn’t represent a large buch of data (we don’t talk about retailer tickets line here…).
I’ve asked to download all my data (I own this watch for one year only)…and it represents 14MB…
So my guess is the information system was not initialy designed to be migrated…and they have serious issues with this.

Prenj · 12 Nov 2019, 16:56

Well now we have a confirmation (kind of, still unofficial of course) that ambit3 will not get proper support in suunto app for customization of sport modes, watch settings, suunto apps, structured interwals etc. Basicly suunto app for a3 users will be just used for syncing moves.

At least that’s how I read this. I might be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that’s it. This would mean that a3 watches would really be, despite available bluetooth connection, crippled by removing movescount app while we would only get suunto app with only most basic support.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 11 Dec 2019, 17:08

@Prenj That is what I understand as well.

I can confirm this from “as close” as I am with Suunto

However, I wonder then why the sync via SA is available and if the “settings” etc could be synced via the app, while made on the new “web/mc” or what it will be called.

right?

Prenj · 12 Nov 2019, 17:24

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
Yes, so confusing. Will routes be then synced by bluetooth after they are added in movescount web (or whatever they name it eventually)? If that is going to be the case then why not just enable doing it in suunto app too?

Anyway it seems ambit3 would lose more of it’s functionality than ambit and ambit2. There really is no technical limitation that would prevent suunto from adding customization of sport modes and settings in suunto app.