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    Suunto 9 with the recent GPS firmware was among least accurate GPS watches in today's 25K trail race

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    • isaziI Offline
      isazi Moderator @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos same here, I love Galileo and would love to see it thrive, but man it fails horribly at times 😞

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @freeheeler
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        @TELE-HO I don’t think any of those can be atm used as standalones. BEIDOU does not have good coverage in my area at least. Yes it has a few sats though.

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        • MarynM Offline
          Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos power consumption is similar to gps+glo or gps+gal?

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            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @isazi
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            @isazi yeah exactly. Some times I am like woooohooo. Look at this smoothness, and some other times -> Offset of 100m like wtf. I run with 3 S9 different constellations 10cm apart from each arm and you can clearly see who fucked up (which system)

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Maryn
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              @Maryn Good question. I dont know. For QZSS for example the battery damage is 0 , for Gali more, and for glonass less than Gali

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                Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                last edited by

                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos based on your experience which is more reliable? Only GPS?

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                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Maryn
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                  @Maryn atm not sure. I will come back with test results. Dont want to give false hopes.

                  In theory GPS + GLO = Better and have not seen anything strage tbh

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                  • MarynM Offline
                    Maryn Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                    last edited by

                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos ok, understood but better than GPS standalone? 🙂

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                    • EgikaE Offline
                      Egika Platinum Member
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                      ist there a good website that shows satellite coverage with the various systems and for a selectable region?

                      Thx!

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                        freeheeler @Egika
                        last edited by

                        @Egika
                        yes there is, I remember that either @isazi or @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos has posted a phone app that shows live satellites of the famous (of not all?) systems…
                        BUT I’ve searched for it but can’t recall atm the topic and discussion…
                        it must have been in the S9 pro’s and con’s or in the firmware update wishlist… sorry

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                          Maryn Silver Members @Egika
                          last edited by Maryn

                          @Egika Coros introduced similar thing directly in watch .
                          Maybe we can vote for such feature 🙂

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                            freeheeler @Maryn
                            last edited by

                            @Maryn
                            an indicator about satellite reception quality 👍

                            living sideways

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                            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Maryn
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                              @Maryn I would not like any of those features on a watch. Sure you can have those eg on the s7 its super easy to install an app todo that but even me gets 0 value…

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Maryn
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                                @Maryn and btw that “app” is already in your s9 😉

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                                  freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                  I just thought when you do sports at any place and the indicator (let’s say a traffic light indicator) goes to orange and you’re not happy about the recording you know already before you go next time that you could try adding either one of the other GNSS systems for that route?

                                  …something like anger prevention 😉

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                                    Łukasz Szmigiel @Egika
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                                    @Egika https://www.gnssplanning.com/#/settings

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                                      Łukasz Szmigiel @isazi
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                                      @isazi when reception is good, Galileo is scary to the point of showing me slaloming around puddles. Pretty amazing.

                                      S9PP 2.40.38

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                                        isazi Moderator @Egika
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                                        @Egika also check https://galmon.eu/

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                                        Blog: isazi's home

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                                          isazi Moderator @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                          @Łukasz-Szmigiel yes, sometimes I get tracks in which I can see even little details, sometimes I go through buildings and jump around without a clear pattern.

                                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                          Blog: isazi's home

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                                            Łukasz Szmigiel @isazi
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                                            @isazi this is also my observation and it seems very strange. I mean - shouldn’t it fallback to GPS if Galileo DOP is poor? The conditions in cases which I’m comparing are the same (low buildings, some trees, some open terrain, no hills, same location) but track quality varies dramatically from run to run. Even after checking GNSS planning (just out of plain curiosity) there’s usually around 7 - 9 sats available in total (GPS + Galileo). One run can be super precise and the other generally poor.

                                            However, what I’ve observed is that the whole workout is either super precise or not. It doesn’t change even for long (20k) runs (during the run). Strange. Perhaps it’s related to fused track?

                                            S9PP 2.40.38

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