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      dbefas @freeheeler
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      @andrasveres I do the quick test (and the calibrations), only right after I wake up

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        dbefas @freeheeler
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        @TELE-HO I have done both…with the same low recovery result…
        About the max/rest HR values:

        • the rest HR, is set automatically to the lowest rate that is recorder from sleep tests (so this is automatically set to 47)…
        • the max HR, is also automatically configured based on 220-age formula, so for me it would be 220-37 = 173…but I have configured this manually to 200 since this is result of my max HR test.

        My actual rest HR is 60, but in “body metrics” of web movescount, the “rest heart rate” is automatically changed to the lowest value recorded in sleep tests.

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          A Former User @dbefas
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          @dbefas Reset the recovery test data from the service menu, then use only the quick test (you have to redo the calibration tests too) to see how it performs. Rest heart rate is updated to lowest heart rate after every test and on sleep test it can get very low, maybe that is disturbing the quick test.

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            dbefas @Guest
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            @andrasveres thx for the tip. I will try this and reply back.

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              dbefas
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              @andrasveres After I made the reset of the recovery test, it saws 100% recovered in the first quick test this morning 🙂

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                A Former User @dbefas
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                @dbefas Forgot to tell that you should update your rest heart rate (ex. 60 bpm) in Movescount and sync your watch before you start the new calibration quick tests, just to be sure calibration will be okay. And remember the first three test will be calibration tests and make sure at least 12 hours are passed between the tests (as stated in user guide).

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                  A Former User
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                  We recommend performing the test in the morning after waking up. This helps ensure you get comparable results day to day.
                  You need to perform three tests while you are feeling well recovered and have no accumulated recovery time to calibrate the test algorithm.
                  The calibration tests do not need to be done in sequence, but they need to be at least 12 hours apart.
                  During this calibration period, you may get results that are higher or lower than expected. These results are indicated in the watch as your estimated recovery status until the calibration is completed.

                  The above text is from Ambit3 Vertical user guide.

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                    dbefas
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                    @andrasveres I let the movescount rest rate value as it is (47)…since even if i set it manually to 60…it is then changed automatically after watch synch, to 47…probably this is the lowest HR counted during my sleep test.
                    During the second quick test, (second calibration) I get an 89% recovery status.
                    I always do the tests after night sleep, and only from day to day.

                    I believe that the “service reset” did the job 🙂

                    Let’s see what it will saw after the calibration tests.

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                      marcrie Bronze Member @Guest
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                      @andrasveres I got my Ambit 3 Peak in 2016 and did the calibration of sleep test and quick recovery test in 2016. Since then I used the quick recovery test before hard training sessions if I feel tired. If recovery is above 50% I go for the training if its lower I recover. Now my question is, can I calibrate the recovery tests again? Due to increased overall fitnes I think recalibtration would make sense.

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                        A Former User @marcrie
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                        @marcrie sure if you feel that is way off. I use recovery time and recovery status too, but I don’t take it as exact science. Just like running performance, I take it as a guide, but mostly I take “action” by how I feel.

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                          isazi Moderator @Guest
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                          @andrasveres said in Suunto recovery status always low:

                          @marcrie sure if you feel that is way off. I use recovery time and recovery status too, but I don’t take it as exact science. Just like running performance, I take it as a guide, but mostly I take “action” by how I feel.

                          Maybe also an interesting read, if you haven’t already: https://www.uphillathlete.com/why-we-stopped-relying-on-hrv-apps/

                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                          Blog: isazi's home

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                            dbefas @isazi
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                            @isazi great article! thx a lot for this one !
                            A nice perk came up, from a simple post about suunto recovery status 🙂

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                              isazi Moderator @dbefas
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                              @dbefas you’re welcome!

                              Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                              Blog: isazi's home

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                                marcrie Bronze Member @Guest
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                                @andrasveres For me it’s just a useful Tool if I have doubts to do the Workouts. And in my case I made good experience with it. But if I look seriously on the recovery time after the workout I don‘t trust, especialy after bike workouts. The recovery time here is often to long.

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                                  aqzaxs
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                                  Do i understand correct to calibrate the test ?

                                  • need to be fully recovered;
                                  • need to do 3 sleep tests (3 nights);
                                    Can i do the sleep test and the the quick test after it (in the morning after sleep test - not 12 hours between those)? and repeat 3 consecutive nights?

                                  PS: i use ambit3 peak + HRM smart sensor

                                  Ambit 3 PEAK
                                  Smart sensor
                                  Iphone 11 Pro max

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                                    A Former User @aqzaxs
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                                    @aqzaxs The text I posted was referring to quick test, but mostly is the same for sleep test too. Both test don’t need to be taken in sequence, however not sure about taking quick test right after the sleep test in the morning. The 12 hour distance is only mentioned at quick test so I guess it should be fine, but never tried that way. I used just the quick test. However, make sure before you take any of the test that you don’t have recovery time accumulated.

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                                      aqzaxs @Guest
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                                      @andrasveres thx.
                                      after read this topic and Ambit’s 3 user guide have another question:
                                      do i need to leave the lower HR as rest HR in movescount after calibration (sleep test)?

                                      Ambit 3 PEAK
                                      Smart sensor
                                      Iphone 11 Pro max

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                                        aqzaxs @aqzaxs
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                                        is the calibration test just to detect the lowest/rest HR?
                                        is the same thing as i set the rest HR value in movescount?

                                        Ambit 3 PEAK
                                        Smart sensor
                                        Iphone 11 Pro max

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                                          A Former User @aqzaxs
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                                          @aqzaxs I kept the lowest HR on whichever value the calibration test updated. I don’t think these test are only to detect the lowest value, hence there is a clear calibration result in the service menu, it also detect and store more data in the watch that is not visible for us. Maybe someone knows more about it, I surely don’t.
                                          Can’t recall exactly, but if you modify the value through Movescount then after you sync your watch the tests will return calibration phase (not 100% sure though).

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