Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App

[tomhaegler]

@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@tomhaegler said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

s. Looking for alternatives right now… I gladly supported Suunto for being European company and for built quality they are offering with their lineup but since Anta acquired them, things are going in direction I don’t like anymore. Oh well…

fair point. Using a special browser, I was once able to load the desktop site of movescount on my iphone. That made it possible to upload a gpx file I created using an other app. then sync wireless - and the track was on my watch. very convenient to do this while on the trail!! haha, maybe someone will come up with a cable sync app for mobile phones - then we could at least bring the cable and hook it up to the phone

Yes, I was even looking for a way to install windows virtual machine to do that but it was to complicated so I gave up. This would be trivial for suunto to create. Actually they already have it. It’s called Movecount app But I guess they decided that their customers will not be needing that anymore.

I still have the movescount app installed and use it all the time (don’t have the suunto app). I hope it will run on ios14. haha - great idea with the VM!!!

[Prenj]

@Fenr1r said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

Unfortunatelly they are still selling Ambit3 with “wireless watch customization” in specs in official Suunto website which is pretty lame if you ask me.

Well, I suppose it could be argued that it is wirelessly customizable (like pretty much all watches on which you can alter anything - including time). You can tailor several basic settings on the watch itself. Although there might be small wires inside it …

LOL

[margusl]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos , kudos for spelling it out.
Is there a hope for any development towards Ambit-line? E.g. missing power data ( from Stryd, in my case ) is pretty annoying, I don’t much care if it’s shown in the SA or not, but not having it available for 3rd party services is really getting on my nerves - Stryd Powercenter sync just ignores all SA activities without power.

[lexterm77]

@margusl said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos , kudos for spelling it out.
Is there a hope for any development towards Ambit-line? E.g. missing power data ( from Stryd, in my case ) is pretty annoying, I don’t much care if it’s shown in the SA or not, but not having it available for 3rd party services is really getting on my nerves - Stryd Powercenter sync just ignores all SA activities without power.

You can do a direct sync via stryd app after using A3P, then you can export from Stryd Power Center to 3rd party.

For cycling no such luck.

I use A3P for its clear Screen view in difficult Conditions. When its muddy I just wipe sapphire screen with a finger and can see clearly dark or sunny.

On S9B when I wipe mud off I see smeared glare mess, I found it rather inconvenient to carry a bottle of windex and wipes on bike or while running. It’s more of an dirt free training watch.

[margusl]

@lexterm77 said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

You can do a direct sync via stryd app after using A3P, then you can export from Stryd Power Center to 3rd party.

To get all Stryd metrics, I need to go through offline sync with Stryd app anyway, that’s not an issue. What I’m pissed at is not having a track along Stryd metrics in Powercenter ( Powercenter normally pulls it from a watch manufacturer’s data store and merges with stryd data, but only if the activity includes power) and not having power in TrainingPeaks (unless I connect TP with Stryd and manually deal with duplicates).

[lexterm77]

@margusl said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@lexterm77 said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

You can do a direct sync via stryd app after using A3P, then you can export from Stryd Power Center to 3rd party.

To get all Stryd metrics, I need to go though offline sync with Stryd app anyway, that’s not an issue. What I’m pissed at is not having a track along Stryd metrics in Powercenter ( Powercenter normally pulls it from a watch manufacturer’s data store and merges with stryd data, but only if the activity includes power) and not having power in TrainingPeaks (unless I connect TP with Stryd and manually deal with duplicates).

Thats true, Stryd does not merge if activity has no power.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@margusl said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos , kudos for spelling it out.
Is there a hope for any development towards Ambit-line? E.g. missing power data ( from Stryd, in my case ) is pretty annoying, I don’t much care if it’s shown in the SA or not, but not having it available for 3rd party services is really getting on my nerves - Stryd Powercenter sync just ignores all SA activities without power.

Yes. I hate that as well and I still push and won’t stop

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

Again just to be clear.

The only basic (feature) that is gone is workout planner. That was done via the app only.

The "new " movescount will provide all route planning yadi yada but not the activity view etc.

It’s said on the announcements as well.

[tomhaegler]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks a lot!! A3P is still my favorite watch and going strong after many peaks and years…

[tomhaegler]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

Again just to be clear.

The only basic (feature) that is gone is workout planner. That was done via the app only.

The "new " movescount will provide all route planning yadi yada but not the activity view etc.

It’s said on the announcements as well.

Nice! any idea when the new movescount will launch?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@tomhaegler Nope

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@tomhaegler But not any time later than MC goes away.

[Prenj]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

Again just to be clear.

The only basic (feature) that is gone is workout planner. That was done via the app only.

The "new " movescount will provide all route planning yadi yada but not the activity view etc.

It’s said on the announcements as well.

And of course “wireless watch customization” Well technically that’s more than one feature. It’s more like offline/online watch settings, sport modes customization, syncing of routes and POI-s with phone app. And there was also very nice second screen feature. In my book that’s a huge hit to the watch usability.

I remember the time when Suunto advertised “connected family with Ambit3”. Well it’s not that “conneccted” anymore. More like “mostly cable connected to computer family with Ambit3” now.

Hardware is still great, that was never the problem. But it’s significantly worse device now it’s feature list has shrunk.

[sartoric]

@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

Well it’s not that “conneccted” anymore. More like “mostly cable connected to computer family with Ambit3” now.

Well technically … even through a cable it’s still “connected”

[Prenj]

@sartoric said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

Well it’s not that “conneccted” anymore. More like “mostly cable connected to computer family with Ambit3” now.

Well technically … even through a cable it’s still “connected”

LOL yes. It’s just that it was just Ambit3 that was advertised as “connected” while other ambits without bluetooth were not. Maybe they just forgot to include them

[francescobaldi]

Even if I know that i’m loosing time… I want to remember that this watch have been sold with specific characteristics and features…
If you buy a car and than suddenly the producer remove the steering wheel, Well, technically you can still drive it using a wrench…
is this what you payd for? you will happily accept the compromise?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

Again just to be clear.

The only basic (feature) that is gone is workout planner. That was done via the app only.

The "new " movescount will provide all route planning yadi yada but not the activity view etc.

It’s said on the announcements as well.

And of course “wireless watch customization” Well technically that’s more than one feature. It’s more like offline/online watch settings, sport modes customization, syncing of routes and POI-s with phone app. And there was also very nice second screen feature. In my book that’s a huge hit to the watch usability.

I remember the time when Suunto advertised “connected family with Ambit3”. Well it’s not that “conneccted” anymore. More like “mostly cable connected to computer family with Ambit3” now.

Hardware is still great, that was never the problem. But it’s significantly worse device now it’s feature list has shrunk.

I was reffering to Movescount as a service. Not the medium the service uses. That correct is lost the wireless “setup”.

[Prenj]

@francescobaldi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

Even if I know that i’m loosing time… I want to remember that this watch have been sold with specific characteristics and features…
If you buy a car and than suddenly the producer remove the steering wheel, Well, technically you can still drive it using a wrench…
is this what you payd for? you will happily accept the compromise?

If I remember correctly @TELE-HO made a great analogy… Imagine buying a TV with remote control (of course) and after some time, manufacturer decides to disable it, or let’s be even closer to A3P’s case, disables all the buttons except power. So technically, you still have working remote, TV still works, but it’s significantly more inconvenient to use it than before. When you want to change channels you have to get up and use buttons on TV itself. Well maybe some of them don’t work too, but that’s ok I guess

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

For those that perhaps have come later to this discussions about “what goes away or not” we had a war here in the forum.

The first announcement was that there wont be any replacement and many devices would be bricked etc. (At least the perception)

Many users here in this forum added their voice and changed many things during this procedure.

I know that BT is a thing for syncing your route (settings can be less relevany since they dont change ofter) and this is understandable.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Prenj Yes it’s a deliberate decision due to I suppose (and we all) maintainability and economical reasons. It is what is now.

We can reopen the subject, spend a coupe of ours, change our mood,have again a fight and so on, but this wont benefit anyone of us.