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So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?

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    A Former User @Paweł Ładna
    last edited by 16 Nov 2020, 11:17

    @Paweł-Ładna said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

    @Prenj That’s actualy untrue! I’ve changed from Garmin to Suunto, because of recent Garmin hack. Their watches really heavy on cloud services.

    Sorry to say, but most features on Garmins don’t relly on cloud.
    You can almost do everything without internet or cellphone on garmin devices.
    Not the case with ambits.

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      sky-runner Silver Members @Guest
      last edited by sky-runner 16 Nov 2020, 20:57

      @André-Faria Right, Garmin devices can be accessed as generic USB storage, then activity FIT can be copied directly from device, route FIT or GPX files can be copied directly to device, etc. All configuration changes can be made directly on watch. So in theory a Garmin watch can be used without ever connecting to Garmin Connect.

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        Paweł Ładna @Guest
        last edited by Paweł Ładna 16 Nov 2020, 21:13

        @André-Faria let’s both agree to disagree. To be more accurate - I had vivoactive 4 and it can hold up to 10 trainings. TRUE that all measurements where done by watch, but I was not able to upload those to my phone since this relays on cloud.

        To conclude - they do stuff in device, but whole architecture of app and ecosystem relays on cloud

        I think now it is more clear on what is done in device since your argument is valid, just wasn’t sure if this is what you where looking for.

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          Paweł Ładna @sky-runner
          last edited by 16 Nov 2020, 21:16

          @sky-runner fair enough - I lent whole architecture of Harmon, but year this is true.

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            A Former User @Paweł Ładna
            last edited by 16 Nov 2020, 21:22

            @Paweł-Ładna said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

            @André-Faria let’s both agree to disagree. To be more accurate - I had vivoactive 4 and it can hold up to 10 trainings. TRUE that all measurements where done by watch, but I was not able to upload those to my phone since this relays on cloud.

            To conclude - they do stuff in device, but whole architecture of app and ecosystem relays on cloud

            I think now it is more clear on what is done in device since your argument is valid, just wasn’t sure if this is what you where looking for.

            Ok, didn’t know about that limitation. You are not able to connect to computer and remove them? I own the edge 530 , bought during the outage and could do everything, even updating firmware. Didn’t need Garmin connect/cloud services at all.

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              Paweł Ładna @Guest
              last edited by 16 Nov 2020, 21:25

              @André-Faria I think it is still possible, and 10 trending a is just system limitation as it has internal 4Gb memory - they want you to buy higher end model 😁 That their right.

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                Jamie BG Bronze Member @Paweł Ładna
                last edited by 17 Nov 2020, 10:17

                @Paweł-Ładna - there were quite a few people who ran into this limitation during the outage.and lost tracked activity due to this.

                but again not a complete reason not to buy something. Sometimes these things happen…

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                  Efejota Bronze Member
                  last edited by Efejota 17 Nov 2020, 21:48

                  Carlos Soria is a Spanish climber 81 years old. He has climbed thirteen of the 14 mountains over 8.000 meters. And he is training for his next summit (Dhaulagiri). You can see the watch he uses in the video in this piece of news. At a certain moment it can be very clearly seen on his left wrist while biking. What will he do after Movescount closes? We could ask him 😊

                  https://elpais.com/videos/2020-11-16/asi-entrena-el-alpinista-espanol-de-81-anos-para-escalar-los-14-picos-mas-altos-del-mundo.html

                  More seriously, lots of admiration to his career and how he is facing this challenge.

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                    Egika Platinum Member @Efejota
                    last edited by 18 Nov 2020, 12:17

                    @Efejota said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                    Carlos Soria is a Spanish climber 81 years old. He has climbed thirteen of the 14 mountains over 8.000 meters. And he is training for his next summit (Dhaulagiri). You can see the watch he uses in the video in this piece of news. At a certain moment it can be very clearly seen on his left wrist while biking. What will he do after Movescount closes? We could ask him 😊

                    https://elpais.com/videos/2020-11-16/asi-entrena-el-alpinista-espanol-de-81-anos-para-escalar-los-14-picos-mas-altos-del-mundo.html

                    More seriously, lots of admiration to his career and how he is facing this challenge.

                    The full closing of Movescount will be postponed a few times more until this guy is not climbing anymore 😬

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                      A Former User @Egika
                      last edited by A Former User 18 Nov 2020, 13:47

                      @Egika said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                      @Efejota said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                      Carlos Soria is a Spanish climber 81 years old. He has climbed thirteen of the 14 mountains over 8.000 meters. And he is training for his next summit (Dhaulagiri). You can see the watch he uses in the video in this piece of news. At a certain moment it can be very clearly seen on his left wrist while biking. What will he do after Movescount closes? We could ask him 😊

                      https://elpais.com/videos/2020-11-16/asi-entrena-el-alpinista-espanol-de-81-anos-para-escalar-los-14-picos-mas-altos-del-mundo.html

                      More seriously, lots of admiration to his career and how he is facing this challenge.

                      The full closing of Movescount will be postponed a few times more until this guy is not climbing anymore 😬

                      Hope so!
                      Joke: Suunto makes an add with him planning hikes in SA in the smartphone! With his new S9B ambassador!

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                        Fenr1r @Guest
                        last edited by Fenr1r 18 Nov 2020, 15:04

                        @Efejota @André-Faria said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                        Joke: Suunto makes an add with him planning hikes in SA in the smartphone! With his new S9B ambassador!

                        ESTABLISHING SHOT: Hilltop, golden hour. Soria stands by his bicycle, broom handle resting against the crossbar. Frame cuts off height of white column behind and off to one side.

                        CLOSE UP: Soria’s left wrist rotates from framed view of SUUNTO S9B to hand holding SMARTPHONE [Brand TBA] SCREEN.

                        FX: SUUNTO APP loads.

                        Soria V/O [Trans into Spanish]: How do I get a [BEEP] POI onto this [BEEP] thing?

                        PULL BACK TO WIDE SHOT: showing Soria, bicycle, broom handle … and REVEALING white column as base of slowly turning wind turbine.

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                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                          last edited by 18 Nov 2020, 15:40

                          81y old and still planning the hikes? 😛 Or needing pois?

                          ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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                            Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by 18 Nov 2020, 15:55

                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                            81y old and still planning the hikes? 😛 Or needing pois?

                            ¯_(ツ)_/¯

                            Sure. I’ve known octogenarians who want to hike to new places, requiring carefully planned routes for dodgy hips, knees, etc. And stubborn codgers who will go their own way via their own off-track waypoints, dammit, and stop treating them like 90-year olds.

                            Also ones who have forgotten where they’ve been and get to do things again as new.

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                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
                              last edited by 18 Nov 2020, 16:13

                              @Fenr1r I dont treat anyone as old. But as of experience 😉 / Technique / Dependence to equipement.

                              At least I hope at 81 I have stopped bothering. till 70 debatable

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                                Mff73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                last edited by 18 Nov 2020, 16:24

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                Or needing pois?

                                it is not fair to teese like this 🙂

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                                  Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by Fenr1r 18 Nov 2020, 16:25

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                  @Fenr1r I dont treat anyone as old. But as of experience 😉 / Technique / Dependence to equipement.

                                  At least I hope at 81 I have stopped bothering. till 70 debatable

                                  That’s where the adventure of new places and the aide memoire of a GPS watch come together. If you’ve never been somewhere before (in your 80+ years), decades of technique and experience only get you so far, geolocation-wise, especially if visibility is crappy and your internal step-memory iffy.

                                  Plus, some folks, no matter how old, like gadgets. I’m sure you’ll have something on your wrist, on your eyeballs or hovering by your side as you run over a mountain at 81.

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                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
                                    last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 18 Nov 2020, 16:33

                                    @Fenr1r oh lord … Ok ok I take it back 😄 It makes indeed sense the way you say it

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                                      Efejota Bronze Member @Fenr1r
                                      last edited by Efejota 18 Nov 2020, 18:19

                                      @Fenr1r One of the most amazing statements in the interview is that he says that part of the idea of their activities now is telling people that they do not need to stop doing certain things just because of your age. So, in the end, why not exploring new places where you have not ever been?
                                      POIs there and then will be unvaluable 😁

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fenr1r
                                        last edited by 20 Nov 2020, 01:11

                                        @Fenr1r said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                        @Fenr1r I dont treat anyone as old. But as of experience 😉 / Technique / Dependence to equipement.

                                        At least I hope at 81 I have stopped bothering. till 70 debatable
                                        (https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/311066-mojo-vision-smart-contact-lenses) or hovering by your side as you run over a mountain at 81.

                                        Well, I only have to wait about a decade and a half for that:)

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                                          mlakis Bronze Member
                                          last edited by 23 Nov 2020, 08:00

                                          How this case is different?
                                          https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/18/21573710/apple-battery-gate-throttle-iphones-settlement-amount

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