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    Audaxjoe @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
    last edited by 25 Dec 2020, 17:38

    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

    https://www.suunto.com/move/joejord/5fe5d50d5041ef742cb08434

    https://www.suunto.com/move/joejord/5fe5d50b7b9a556a54830886

    SA version 4.33.1 release (4033001) on Android. Watch was updated on the 20th to latest version.

    I have uploaded original GPX, I also added POI on the route in SA. And navigated in reverse. Navigated fine up to the first crash just under 6km in. Then I just recorded the walk and tried to turn on navigation again and it crashed as soon as navigation was selected.

    As a test I loaded another route in the Navigation menu of the watch and that seems OK, then tried to load the one attached again, watch crashed again and download arrow appeared and did not go until I connected to a PC back home. Suunto Link them updated and wiped all the user data and settings from watch.

    Christmas.gpx

    Suunto Vertical
    Suunto 9 BARO
    Garmin Fenix 3, 5
    Suunto Vector

    D 3 Replies Last reply 26 Dec 2020, 08:03 Reply Quote 1
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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Audaxjoe
      last edited by 26 Dec 2020, 08:03

      @Audaxjoe thank you

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        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Audaxjoe
        last edited by 26 Dec 2020, 08:04

        @Audaxjoe you don’t need to connect to sl. Next time just hold the upper button 12s

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          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Audaxjoe
          last edited by 26 Dec 2020, 08:05

          @Audaxjoe the Christmas gpx doesn’t have waypoints right ?

          If you manage to reload it at the watch and crash the watch please send the logs !

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            omunoz Silver Members
            last edited by omunoz 26 Dec 2020, 14:57

            Hi guys ,

            The same problem I don’t know the but 3 restart in one route of 8Km , configuration if helps to fix the issue…

            Route Create with :
            https://www.plotaroute.com save to gpx and upload by https://quantified- self.io/ ( Note : Use POIS of plotaroute)
            Screenshot 2020-12-26 at 15.52.58.png

            Watch config : Trail running with Climb Hill Trainning , and Route navigation.

            S9B Fw: 2.13.18
            SA 2.0.0 (8608)

            Watch: SV Fw: 2.40.38

            IPhone 13 (Sim) IOS 18.4.1
            Android 15.0 with Android Studio
            macOS Sequoia 15.4.1 M1 & M2
            Apps IOS: 2.45.0 (19123)
            Apps Android: 4.107.2 (40107002)

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              Audaxjoe @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
              last edited by 26 Dec 2020, 15:59

              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos that is the original, I then uploaded it to SA and added waypoints. It crashed just a few hundred meters past the first waypoint. The route was being reversed also.

              Unfortunately, I then deleted the one in SA when I got home.

              Suunto Vertical
              Suunto 9 BARO
              Garmin Fenix 3, 5
              Suunto Vector

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                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                last edited by 26 Dec 2020, 16:25

                Guys I’ll need logs about this. The log id. So after finishing your activity , connect to suunto app or preferably suuntolink.

                Connect the watch to suunto link and press send logs. Paste the log id here.

                Connect the watch to suunto app. There is a menu at the watch section to send logs. I need the time you performed the send logs and your email then.

                Please try to use suuntolink as it contains more data.

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                  stromdiddily Gold Members
                  last edited by 26 Dec 2020, 18:14

                  Going to try and see if I can repro.

                  3rd party app to create route
                  Waypoints added in SA after import
                  Reverse direction + S+ features enabled

                  Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                  User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

                  S 1 Reply Last reply 26 Dec 2020, 23:45 Reply Quote 2
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                    omunoz Silver Members
                    last edited by 26 Dec 2020, 20:00

                    I send logs/registers by SA

                    Watch: SV Fw: 2.40.38

                    IPhone 13 (Sim) IOS 18.4.1
                    Android 15.0 with Android Studio
                    macOS Sequoia 15.4.1 M1 & M2
                    Apps IOS: 2.45.0 (19123)
                    Apps Android: 4.107.2 (40107002)

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                      stromdiddily Gold Members @stromdiddily
                      last edited by 26 Dec 2020, 23:45

                      No dice in getting mine to crash w the above steps

                      Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                      User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @omunoz
                        last edited by 27 Dec 2020, 08:02

                        @omunoz email and time you did it . Pm me

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                        O 1 Reply Last reply 28 Dec 2020, 13:01 Reply Quote 0
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                          omunoz Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by 28 Dec 2020, 13:01

                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                          Where email can I send ?

                          Thanks

                          Watch: SV Fw: 2.40.38

                          IPhone 13 (Sim) IOS 18.4.1
                          Android 15.0 with Android Studio
                          macOS Sequoia 15.4.1 M1 & M2
                          Apps IOS: 2.45.0 (19123)
                          Apps Android: 4.107.2 (40107002)

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                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @omunoz
                            last edited by 28 Dec 2020, 13:21

                            @omunoz pm me here in the forum or Facebook

                            Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                            Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                            youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                            https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                            https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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                              omunoz Silver Members
                              last edited by omunoz 28 Dec 2020, 14:39

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                              Saturday 26th December 26/12/2020 at 10:11

                              Watch and config Specs:

                              S9B Fw: 2.13.18
                              SA 2.0.0 (8608)
                              Route create with https://www.plotaroute.com and imported with https://quantified-self.io/ : https://api.sports-tracker.com/apiserver/v2/routes/export/R2szSmpzc093M2J5K21rTmpOT2krUXN2WGYvckNNdmZHR0V5eW4rdXhLWT0=?brand=SUUNTOAPP
                              Screenshot 2020-12-26 at 15.52.58.png

                              Fail 1:

                              • Begin workout 10:11 (hour:minute)
                              • Track : (S9B crash during navigation) : https://www.suunto.com/move/omunoz/5fe70cfc1e158b59550ac572
                              • Sunto Climb Activate
                              • Navigation Active with route created with https://www.plotaroute.com
                              • GPS + QZSS
                              • 10:23:16 crash the workout (hour:minute:second)
                                IMG_5749.jpg

                              Fail 2:

                              • Begin workout 10:38 (hour:minute)
                              • Track : (S9B crash during navigation) : https://www.suunto.com/move/omunoz/5fe70cfd9dc5b72d972b9fce
                              • Sunto Climb Activate
                              • Navigation Active with route created with https://www.plotaroute.com
                              • GPS + QZSS
                              • 10:43:31 crash the workout (hour:minute:second)
                                IMG_5750.jpg

                              Correct 3 (Change the Gps options and not detect the position):

                              • Begin workout 10:45 (hour:minute)
                              • Track : (S9B no crashing detect no gps found ) :https://www.suunto.com/move/omunoz/5fe70cfb05a1bd2de8389e3c
                              • Sunto Climb Deactivate
                              • Navigation Active with route created with https://www.plotaroute.com
                              • GPS + QZSS + BEIDOU
                              • 10:47 Stop workout (hour:minute)

                              Correct 4 :

                              • Begin workout 10:51 (hour:minute)
                              • First use the option your location to detect quickly the position with gps.
                              • Track : **(S9B no crashing detect no gps found )**https://www.suunto.com/move/omunoz/5fe70d08aa9b555744cfee0d
                              • Sunto Climb Deactivate
                              • Navigation Active with route created with https://www.plotaroute.com
                              • GPS + QZSS + BEIDOU
                              • 11:09:04 Stop workout (hour:minute)

                              Send the logs by Suunto App 26/12/2020 at 21:00, not connect with Suuntolink.

                              Now today connect with Suunto Link and send the logs : 3801051312397

                              @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos In my case seems that the watch hung when pass the second POI in spanish “Punto de referencia”, in the both watch hangs is with the second POI

                              Thanks a lot

                              Watch: SV Fw: 2.40.38

                              IPhone 13 (Sim) IOS 18.4.1
                              Android 15.0 with Android Studio
                              macOS Sequoia 15.4.1 M1 & M2
                              Apps IOS: 2.45.0 (19123)
                              Apps Android: 4.107.2 (40107002)

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                                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                last edited by 28 Dec 2020, 15:57

                                Can you explain what chnages with the correct versions of the tests ? Thanks

                                Community Manager / Admin @Suunto
                                Creator of Quantified-Self.io
                                youtube.com/c/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                                https://instagram.com/dimitrioskanellopoulos
                                https://www.strava.com/athletes/7586105

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                                  omunoz Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by 28 Dec 2020, 19:29

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                  Hi , the changes is not use Suunto Plus Climb and the GPS+QZSS+GLONASS to GPS+QZSS+BEIDU , but I don’t know if is a problem to use POI with external platform https://www.plotaroute.com that’s hangs or a problem with Suunto Plus Climb or GPS+QZSS+GLONASS

                                  Watch: SV Fw: 2.40.38

                                  IPhone 13 (Sim) IOS 18.4.1
                                  Android 15.0 with Android Studio
                                  macOS Sequoia 15.4.1 M1 & M2
                                  Apps IOS: 2.45.0 (19123)
                                  Apps Android: 4.107.2 (40107002)

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                                    Audaxjoe
                                    last edited by 9 Jan 2021, 21:10

                                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos OK watch crashed again today and I managed to send the log. It was sent at 10.57 UK time.

                                    Few similarities to last time:
                                    location was similar.
                                    It was the second waypoint
                                    And I was using the 2nd best GPS performance - I hardly ever use this mode, I normally have it on best, could this cause an issue?

                                    After crash I rebooted the watch, loaded the GPX with top tracking and had no further issues.

                                    This time I was following the route the correct way around but had left the route for around 3km, and it crashed just after joining back on the route.

                                    Suunto Vertical
                                    Suunto 9 BARO
                                    Garmin Fenix 3, 5
                                    Suunto Vector

                                    surfboomerangS Brad_OlwinB D 3 Replies Last reply 9 Jan 2021, 21:24 Reply Quote 0
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                                      surfboomerang @Audaxjoe
                                      last edited by 9 Jan 2021, 21:24

                                      @Audaxjoe said in S9B crash during navigation.:

                                      And I was using the 2nd best GPS performance

                                      Isn’t navigation always in “best” GPS mode? No matter what GPS mode you select?

                                      Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
                                      OnePlus Nord 4

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                                        stromdiddily Gold Members @surfboomerang
                                        last edited by 9 Jan 2021, 22:00

                                        @surfboomerang meaning if you’re on the nav screen? Think yes

                                        Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                                        User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Audaxjoe
                                          last edited by 9 Jan 2021, 23:15

                                          @Audaxjoe the GPS sampling frequency does not cause a crash for me and I use endurance mode frequently. When on the route screen if a route is loaded or breadcrumb screen the watch will switch to best GPS fix while on those screens and then revert to the set frequency when on other screens

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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