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    S9B, bad new GPS version

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    • surfboomerangS Offline
      surfboomerang
      last edited by

      I can confirm all of it.

      Watch has AGPS of 01-01-2021, GPS optimizations are synced according to SA, but no new version.
      Did a hike today and the start was horrible (quite a challenge if you try to follow a route) after a while it got better.

      Also received a storm alert because the barometer spiked from 1016 to 1032 back to 1016 in minutes. Don’t know if this relates to bad GPS altitude

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      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
        last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

        Hi all agps won’t sync. Sony has an issue.

        It’s all over the new for Garmin and suunto etc. (5k runner etc)

        Just reboot the watch to not have agps and let it soak to get signal.

        That’s my recommendation.

        Monday official communication will come. Till then enjoy your holidays and don’t worry. These things happen. They are minor in life. Enjoy your family and be healthy and happy.

        Refs for now

        https://the5krunner.com/2021/01/02/garmin-watches-global-gps-errors/?amp=1

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        • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
          Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
          last edited by

          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9B, bad new GPS version:

          (…) Till then enjoy your holidays and don’t worry. These things happen. They are minor in life. Enjoy your family and be healthy and happy.

          This.

          GPS works without AGPS, only the time for first fix is longer but in my experience no big deal (under 1 min).

          S9PP 2.40.44

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          • OktanO Offline
            Oktan @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
            last edited by Oktan

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9B, bad new GPS version:

            https://the5krunner.com/2021/01/02/garmin-watches-global-gps-errors/?amp=1

            Yes!! i’m famous now 🙂

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Oktan
              last edited by

              @Oktan you are always famous if you wear a SUUNTO (and join our community)

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              • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Łukasz Szmigiel
                last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

                @Łukasz-Szmigiel it can become bad if you don’t let it soak well. As it doesn’t have predictions. But if it has a clear view to the sky for a few time it should not be a problem. It should know all the data it needs for the next few hours.

                Also your next start should be faster.

                When new suunto models are tested (and that has been the case for s9/5) we testers never have agps. We test against the pure chip performance. We let the watch soak nearby the window or ie the balcony , for like 15mins , then we go run. It’s ok. 90% of the times. Agps gives the quick start, and a reassurance.

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                • N Offline
                  nseslija Bronze Member @stromdiddily
                  last edited by

                  @stromdiddily after a restart, because there is no AGPS file provided by Sony…

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                  • isaziI Online
                    isazi Moderator
                    last edited by

                    Also Ray’s post on the issue: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2021/01/gps-accuracy-impacting-devices.html

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                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                      last edited by

                      Agps FYI is back.

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                      • isaziI Online
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                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos yes, this morning I noticed I’ve got the one for the 3rd of January.

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                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
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                          • surfboomerangS Offline
                            surfboomerang
                            last edited by

                            I received the new AGPS information, had almost instant fix and a clean track.

                            Does this mean it’s solved or whas I just lucky today?

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                            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @surfboomerang
                              last edited by

                              @surfboomerang looks like solved

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                              • M Offline
                                Mi_chael Bronze Member
                                last edited by

                                For me between 27 December to 03 January, I’ve no issue with my S9 Baro, F6 pro solar and Vertix.

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                                  apuka @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by apuka

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in S9B, bad new GPS version:
                                  “looks like solved”
                                  Is really solved the week 53 issue too? Is anybody working on GPS chipset FW update in Suunto to avoid similar problems at the end of this year (also has 53 weeks)?

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                                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @apuka
                                    last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

                                    @apuka we dont write the FW Sony does for all brands. That is with all chips, else Suunto would know how to produce a Sony chip 🙂 Its not like it’s opensource world here. Corps stuff and lotsa $$$

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                                      apuka
                                      last edited by apuka

                                      I am sorry, I meant something like “is anybody in Sony working on GPS FW update and provide it to Suunto for updating the affected watches”.

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                                      • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                                        Łukasz Szmigiel
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                                        It’s a consumer-level GPS chip, not an Apollo guidance computer. It’s tested but as we’ve seen how well it performs after last firmware update (compared to previous version) - it’s being released after a certain quality and performance threshold is being reached, not when it’s military or space grade.

                                        S9PP 2.40.44

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                                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @apuka
                                          last edited by

                                          @apuka I am not sure if a FW update is needed or the fault was on the AGPS. As the AGPS caused the issue.

                                          Nevertheless rest assured that this is investigated and if there is a FW update needed it will come.

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                                          • OktanO Offline
                                            Oktan
                                            last edited by Oktan

                                            If Sony decidede to release a new SW for their chip - how do watchs will get it? througth the watch update Suunto can overwrite Sony’s SW?

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