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    • lexterm77L Offline
      lexterm77 Bronze Member @chrish
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      @chrish

      I dont think Ambits had auto mem management, in that case it is really pure old school pointer programming. Back when programmers needed a large working memory because systems had small memory and processing power could not fit mmu but those had high efficiency, as opposed todays offloading programmers brain burouts with large managed but unefficient systems that eat battery just to run garbage collectors in memory.

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        chrish Bronze Member @lexterm77
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        @lexterm77

        ha! yep, good chance that’s the case. I imagine coding for an Ambit was quite the adventure in ‘old school techniques’ in many respects. I’d love to take a crack and some custom work if Suunto would release the details on the protocol w/ the Ambit series. I spend my days, or have from time to time, managing memory and CPU usage in stuff that’s gotta run fast and lite.

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          lexterm77 Bronze Member @chrish
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          @chrish said in Ambit4:

          @lexterm77

          ha! yep, good chance that’s the case. I imagine coding for an Ambit was quite the adventure in ‘old school techniques’ in many respects. I’d love to take a crack and some custom work if Suunto would release the details on the protocol w/ the Ambit series. I spend my days, or have from time to time, managing memory and CPU usage in stuff that’s gotta run fast and lite.

          Mind I add, an old school programmers had a mind set of an ultra runner. You literally need to complete hundreds of thousands of tedious steps correctly to complete the job. And nothing will stop you from falling over the cliff.

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            Aleksander H Bronze Member @lexterm77
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            @lexterm77 said in Ambit4:

            Mind I add, an old school programmers had a mind set of an ultra runner. You literally need to complete hundreds of thousands of tedious steps correctly to complete the job. And nothing will stop you from falling over the cliff.

            Personally I rarely commit finished code at work without falling off a couple of cliffs along the way first 😆 .

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            • Fenr1rF Offline
              Fenr1r @Aleksander H
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              @lexterm77 @chrish @Aleksander-Helgaker If xkcd has taught me nothing else, it is that you cliff walkers are the real heroes of our age.

              I salute you all.

              Of course, I might have misunderstood the jokes.

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                @Fenr1r you made my day 🤣

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                  freeheeler @Fenr1r
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                  @Fenr1r
                  so true!! 👍

                  living sideways

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                    chrish Bronze Member @lexterm77
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                    @lexterm77 @Aleksander-Helgaker

                    I have fallen off quite a few cliffs in my past. But it’s been awhile. 25 years ago my phone rang and it was a DBA who not so politely asked me what the hell I was doing and could I get out of his database. My memory and CPU usage had crashed the big iron mainframe that was running a claims processing system.

                    But I’d be way better off left to coding against my Ambit3 connected to my computer. Nobody’s day impacted but me. 🙂

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                      lexterm77 Bronze Member @Fenr1r
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                      @Fenr1r

                      It goes without saying that if you stick long word into wrong place, consequences shall arise.

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                        Fenr1r @lexterm77
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                        @lexterm77 Is there no place for “antidisestablishmentarianism” in programming? Sad.

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                          lexterm77 Bronze Member @Fenr1r
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                          @Fenr1r said in Ambit4:

                          @lexterm77 Is there no place for “antidisestablishmentarianism” in programming? Sad.

                          Neiter does pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.

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                            Fenr1r @lexterm77
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                            @lexterm77 Ouch.

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                              Sounds like one wants a Pentium again.

                              Maybe an s 10 with the emulation of ambit software ?

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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Tease.

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                                  Aleksander H Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Ambit4:

                                  Sounds like one wants a Pentium again.

                                  Maybe an s 10 with the emulation of ambit software ?

                                  😂

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                                    lexterm77 Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                    I need to run VMs to keep half factories going, not a bad idea to run VM legacy Suunto watches on S10 😁

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                                      A Former User @Aleksander H
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                                      @Aleksander-Helgaker said in Ambit4:

                                      @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Ambit4:

                                      Sounds like one wants a Pentium again.

                                      Maybe an s 10 with the emulation of ambit software ?

                                      😂

                                      If we have dosbox, why not ambitBox?

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                                        @chrish said in Ambit4:

                                        @Brad_Olwin @Fenr1r

                                        Absolutely! I would totally give up any number of features on the S9 related to training, etc if a second watch/os/firmware/model was necessary to produce those features and keep the watch performing up to Suunto internal benchmarks. Don’t know that I would want it to be an Ambit3 Vertical or Traverse rehash, both had pretty meh GPS accuracy and poor battery life. But yea, something along those lines.

                                        My dream watch doesn’t need a HR monitor. When I had my SSWHR Baro, I frequently didn’t keep it tight enough while hiking/backpacking for it to get a good read anyway.

                                        My dream watch core features would be the following…

                                        1. Good to Great GPS for navigation accuracy. If it can do it w/ less accuracy fine, but every GPS watch that I’m aware of requires the watch to go into ‘best-ish’ mode when navigating.
                                        2. POI/Waypoint navigation as a crow flies
                                        3. POI/Waypoint navigation ‘on route’
                                        4. Route navigation
                                        5. Elevation profile and navigation (of the route)
                                        6. Elevation profile and navigation (as a crow flies)
                                        7. Altimeter, Barometer, and Storm Alarm
                                        8. Bluetooth POI and route mgmt from my phone w/ onboard maps (no cellular connection required)
                                        9. Typical ETA/ETE calculations when navigating
                                        10. Sunrise/Sunset
                                        11. Compass with bearing lock
                                        12. Battery life on the order of an A3P or Coros, or better if we are wishing big and asking for something that’s not gonna happen 😉

                                        I’m sure I’ve forgotten some things if I sat here and pondered longer, but I can most likely take or leave almost everything else. That includes smartphone features, notifications, etc.

                                        I have the same wishlist! I just want a rugged outdoor watch with a perfectly readable screen.

                                        OHR sensor is just useless, at least for me. 50/50 change of measuringa 50bpm instead of 140bpm… just not reliable and for training I always wear a chest HR belt.

                                        But I guess suunto is more and more moving towards ultratrailrunner with colorful dynafit* clothing and strays further away from the outdoor community. IMHO

                                        • nothing against them, I also love to trailrun etc.
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                                        • Brad_OlwinB Offline
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                                          @theguyfromthesummit said in Ambit4:

                                          @chrish said in Ambit4:

                                          @Brad_Olwin @Fenr1r

                                          My dream watch core features would be the following…

                                          1. Good to Great GPS for navigation accuracy. If it can do it w/ less accuracy fine, but every GPS watch that I’m aware of requires the watch to go into ‘best-ish’ mode when navigating.
                                          2. POI/Waypoint navigation as a crow flies
                                          3. POI/Waypoint navigation ‘on route’
                                          4. Route navigation
                                          5. Elevation profile and navigation (of the route)
                                          6. Elevation profile and navigation (as a crow flies)
                                          7. Altimeter, Barometer, and Storm Alarm
                                          8. Bluetooth POI and route mgmt from my phone w/ onboard maps (no cellular connection required)
                                          9. Typical ETA/ETE calculations when navigating
                                          10. Sunrise/Sunset
                                          11. Compass with bearing lock
                                          12. Battery life on the order of an A3P or Coros, or better if we are wishing big and asking for something that’s not gonna happen 😉

                                          So everything above is already available on the S9 baro, some requiring you use SuuntoPlus. The exception is SA does not have onboard maps yet and to load routes into the watch with no cellular the route must be in the route list. Battery life is already better than A3P unless you use the least frequent GPS fix in the A3P where the tracks are very bad. So only a few on your wish list are not there.
                                          I’ve edited the quotation showing in Bold what is available on the S9 and italics for SuuntoPlus.

                                          Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                          • TheGuyFromTheSummitT Offline
                                            TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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                                            @brad_olwin Sunrise and set only when you use the right watchface
                                            Stormalarm is not reliable
                                            Etc

                                            So on paper yes, but…

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