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    • Aleksander HA Offline
      Aleksander H Bronze Member @olymay
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      @olymay said in Suunto 7 and music:

      For info, the YouTube Music app on WatchOS is the same as Spotify and only acts as a remote for the phone, It does not stream directly or offer offline music.

      Was not aware of this! Thanks for the info 😊

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        olymay Gold Members @Aleksander H
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        @Aleksander-Helgaker Google gets a lot of crap for developing the app for WatchOS first when in fact all they have done is add in a functionality to WatchOS that WearOS has had for years 😉

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          Aleksander H Bronze Member @olymay
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          @olymay said in Suunto 7 and music:

          @Aleksander-Helgaker Google gets a lot of crap for developing the app for WatchOS first when in fact all they have done is add in a functionality to WatchOS that WearOS has had for years 😉

          I’ve been one of those people 🙈

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            olymay Gold Members @Aleksander H
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            @Aleksander-Helgaker As was I at first 😂

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            • JorgeFDJ Offline
              JorgeFD
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              It is not official but you can use Spotify offline. Search the forum (don’t remember but was posted by me)

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                Bulkan Moderator @JorgeFD
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                @jorgefd78 I saw this video , I think is an updated version

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                • JorgeFDJ Offline
                  JorgeFD
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                  Trying right now. Didn’t know this version. It feels slow and buggy but it works 🙂

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                    olymay Gold Members @JorgeFD
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                    @jorgefd78 It’s an unofficual modified version. It does work but it’s a faff, the interface is rubbish, and it needs Spotify Premium. But it does work.

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                    • JorgeFDJ Offline
                      JorgeFD @olymay
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                      @olymay yes i known. months ago I tried other different version and it works much better than this

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                        olymay Gold Members @JorgeFD
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                        @jorgefd78 Yeah, there is a recent version that is much improved, but it is still janky (in my opinion). Thee are full details on XDA if people are interested.

                        It’s a reasonable stop gap until YTM goes live, but I am happy to take my phone with me for now (and it reduces the battery hit on the watch)

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                          aeroild Bronze Member
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                          If you want Spotify Lite on your Wear OS and you have an Android phone, I can recommend the app Apps2Fire. This Android app is easy to use to connect your phone to the watch and install apps/APK-files from your phone.

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                            JorgeFD @aeroild
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                            @aeroild good to know. I am using bugjaeger

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                              Jamie BG Bronze Member @olymay
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                              @Hollis Baugh: NavMusic/NavExplorer are currently the best options to get any music you own from your phone/pc to your watch, and to play offline on your watch.
                              The Dev is very good at resolving issues and responding to feature requests/changes/updates.

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                                Jamie BG Bronze Member @olymay
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                                @olymay - I could be wrong but have heard the official app on Tizen/Garmin isn’t any better than the unofficial one on wear os.

                                Doesn’t suprise me - Spotify have really shot themselves in foot with whatever deal they made that prevents them from producing an app for the rest of the wearables - must kill them knowing how badly they have lost out on Apple Watch.

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                                  olymay Gold Members @Jamie BG
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                                  @jamie-bg I haven’t tried it on Tizen, but the Garmin Spotify app is utterly appalling!!

                                  Do you think there is a deal involved that stops them from producing quality apps? Or are they simply not interested in (what they perceive to be) a small market?

                                  I have been active on the Spotify forums and offline music has ben requested not for at least 8 years. Every now and again Spotify respond with a typical corporate copy and paste answer along the lines…

                                  “We appreciate your feedback and thank you for your continued support. This is a feature we are considering and will provide an update as it progresses.”

                                  I guess one can do a considerable amount of considering in 8 years!!

                                  I honestly think they simply do not care.

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                                    Jamie BG Bronze Member @olymay
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                                    @olymay I am sure I read a about a deal a couple of years back, when Spotify was just taking off, that they did a wearables deal with Tizen and Garmin. I think they must have locked themselves in for far too long, as I can’t see a good reason for them not adjsuting their app to provide offline play - or getting someone to build it for them, for the apple market at the very least.

                                    I think they signed a long term deal, short sightedly thinking that they would never be able to win over Android/Apple market due to their in house solutions. And this has now prevented them from providing an offline app for everyone else; and that is also the reason why Tizen and Garmin - as no inhouse streaming options and next largest markets.

                                    Question has been put to them and they ignore it. Which I think is really stupid- they should just come out and say we messed up - locked in until x date, can’t do anything about it. But I think they think if they were to say it, they would lose custom from their phone/pc customers.
                                    Considering available options, I don’t think they will. I personally think they will lose custom when their is a solution for wear os / Apple Watch. If Google had any brains they should realize they have a huge, and a really huge opportunity to make YouTube Music bigger than spotify. Give a similar service, same price and provide decent app for phone, wearable , PC and connect to Google/Alexa devices - and bingo, bye bye Spotify.

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                                      olymay Gold Members @Jamie BG
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                                      @jamie-bg that would be incredibly short sighted of Spotify if true and will likely come back to bite them.

                                      Google have confirmed they are working on a YouTube Music app for WearOS, but there is no confirmation if it will include offline playback, but as Google Play Music had this then I am hopeful.
                                      There is also no hint as to when it will be released. They should have have had it ready before they killed GPM, but hey ho.

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                                        Jamie BG Bronze Member @olymay
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                                        @olymay should have kept play music until YouTube was ready - it really worked well too.

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                                          olymay Gold Members @Jamie BG
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                                          @jamie-bg Agreed, it was brilliant.

                                          However, for the most part YTM is pretty good on the phone (million times better than when it launched!) so I am hoping that the WearOS version will also be pretty decent 🤞

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                                            Aleksander H Bronze Member @olymay
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                                            @olymay said in Suunto 7 and music:

                                            Google have confirmed they are working on a YouTube Music app for WearOS, but there is no confirmation if it will include offline playback, but as Google Play Music had this then I am hopeful.

                                            Just incase anyone is wondering where they have confirmed this,

                                            https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/youtube-music-now-available-apple-watch/

                                            Close to the end they say

                                            Stay tuned for additional updates on YouTube Music availability on WearOS.

                                            This is a blog post from 15th October. Hopefully we wont have to stay tuned for to much longer.

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