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    • gerasimosG Online
      gerasimos Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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      @brad_olwin no lift like zombie šŸ˜†šŸ˜† ! Just turn only wrist twice.
      First to confirm , second light on to secure accidentally light on with simple movements
      Just a thought!!

      Suunto Vertical Ti
      Suunto S9 gen1
      Suunto Ambit3 peak

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      • TheGuyFromTheSummitT Offline
        TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members
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        I have another question regarding the backlight:
        Backlight: LOW
        Standby: OFF
        Raise to Wake: OFF

        but the backlight is always on (tabbing does not work and switching ON/OFF via the quick menu also does not work)

        Has anyone ideas how to fix this?

        thanks!

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          Bradleyd Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
          last edited by Bradleyd

          @theguyfromthesummit, @Tomas5 , @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos, and others, is there any consensus on how to best use the combinations of Standby, Raise to Wake, DND, and Backlight?

          On my S5, there are a weird combination of features and/or bugs and/or HW issues that lead to the following super-easy-to-reproduce observations in a newly factory reset and synced to android device:

          1. Raise to Wake never works, even after a factory reset and no additional settings changes, with any wrist movement

          2. Pressing any button will bring the backlight on at high brightness for 10 seconds

          3. Long pressing the top left button, when the backlight is on, will temporarily turn the backlight off, then it turns back on again

          4. DND has no effect on battery brightness, always very bright for 10 seconds

          5. Switching to Battery Saver will cause the backlight to turn off, no button press will turn it back on

          6. Turning on the Backlight from the middle right button long press will show the backlight for about 65-70 seconds, no button press after it it auto turns off ( 10 seconds after the screen goes to sleep from no movement )

          So confusing, I want to like this feature, but I don’t understand how it works. Is the S9 and S9B behaving differently from the S5?

          Brad

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            Tomas5 @Bradleyd
            last edited by

            @bradleyd said in Suunto 9 raise to wake feature:

            @theguyfromthesummit, @Tomas5 , @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos, and others, is there any consensus on how to best use the combinations of Standby, Raise to Wake, DND, and Backlight?

            On my S5, there are a weird combination of features and/or bugs and/or HW issues that lead to the following super-easy-to-reproduce observations in a newly factory reset and synced to android device:

            1. Raise to Wake never works, even after a factory reset and no additional settings changes, with any wrist movement

            2. Pressing any button will bring the backlight on at high brightness for 10 seconds

            3. Long pressing the top left button, when the backlight is on, will temporarily turn the backlight off, then it turns back on again

            4. DND has no effect on battery brightness, always very bright for 10 seconds

            5. Switching to Battery Saver will cause the backlight to turn off, no button press will turn it back on

            6. Turning on the Backlight from the middle right button long press will show the backlight for about 65-70 seconds, no button press after it it auto turns off ( 10 seconds after the screen goes to sleep from no movement )

            So confusing, I want to like this feature, but I don’t understand how it works. Is the S9 and S9B behaving differently from the S5?

            Brad

            1. Try to use it in dark room. It worked for me but i didn’t notice since it is so low intensity. Only visible in dark room.

            2. Unfortunatelly, after suunto removed toggle mode, it is like it is, i hate that every button, every notification etc enable backlight but sadly i can’t do anything about it.

            3. Well, maybe some residue after removed toggle mode.

            4. didn’t test

            5. didn’t test

            6. can’t reproduce

            I still have hope that suunto will bring back toggle mode. It was feature documented in user manual, they took it away, thay removed it from user manual. I am very disapointed by this. It was my default mode in Ambit 2s, and It was my default mode in Suunto 5 until they removed it.

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              Bradleyd Bronze Member @Tomas5
              last edited by

              Quick update, I spent a week with the feature fully enabled and discovered much of my observation list items are just how the feature works, including:

              1. Raise to Wake will work eventually, but as @Tomas5 pointed out, you need to be in a dark room to see it. It also helps to follow @Brad_Olwin advice and give your wrist a little flick at the end of a purposeful wrist raise. It also helps to note that DND will disable raise to wake, so confirm your auto-DND setting before trying at night.

              2. ( Obviously ) By design to turn on backlight with any button press

              3. By design, this can be done in 2.14.16 with backlight in Automatic mode.

              4. This is a change in behavior, in 2.14.16, DND will set the backlight to a dimmer screen brightness

              5. This is a change in behavior, in 2.14.16, Power Saver mode will not affect backlight in Automatic or toggle mode.

              6. I think 2.16.28 is required for turning on a backlight from the long-press middle button menu. I could be wrong, here, so don’t flame this feedback if it is inaccurate.

              I’ve reset the S5 to 2.14.16 and will spend the next week deciding if I absolutely require a manual toggle backlight. Trying not to be biased, but I think it’s a must have for my watch use and expected battery life.

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              • R Offline
                rn966
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                Is this feature working for anybody of you while running?

                For me it has a kind of anti-behavior.
                I can see that the light goes on and off while running, slow blinking.
                If I raise my hand to look at the watch, then it goes off and I only see a dark screen.
                Some extra shaking of the arm sometimes start the light.

                I don’t think I have any special arm movements while running, thumbs up and palm slightly opened.
                S9B Titanium on left arm.

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                • DMytroD Offline
                  DMytro @rn966
                  last edited by

                  @rn966 works similar for me. I think its mostly fine though, I prefer this over constant backlight or having to press a button.

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                  • isaziI Offline
                    isazi Moderator
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                    I think it’s too sensitive, i.e. it turns on also when it shouldn’t, but it works for me when it has to. If during activity I raise my arm the screen lightens up.

                    Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                    Blog: isazi's home

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                    • JorgeFDJ Offline
                      JorgeFD @rn966
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                      @rn966 Yes, I’m having the same behaviour and it is very is very frustrating

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                        rn966
                        last edited by

                        Nothing changed/fixed with version 2.18.18.
                        Still having the slow blinking while running.
                        Could clearly see the light go on and off all the time in a mirror while running on a treadmill at the gym today.

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                          Storz @rn966
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                          Fairly disappointed with how the raise to wake feature works, I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I wear the watch on my right wrist vs left? I know with Garmin, when you turn on the raise to wake feature it asks which wrist you wear the watch on, and I am pretty sure the S7 Wear OS watch you also have to specify.

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                            zhang965 @Storz
                            last edited by

                            @storz said in Suunto 9 raise to wake feature:

                            Fairly disappointed with how the raise to wake feature works, I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I wear the watch on my right wrist vs left? I know with Garmin, when you turn on the raise to wake feature it asks which wrist you wear the watch on, and I am pretty sure the S7 Wear OS watch you also have to specify.

                            Lol, i give up on raise to wake, if I need backlight, i turn it on during the exercise

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                              cs2nd @zhang965
                              last edited by cs2nd

                              @zhang965 I thought long and hard about staying out of this discussion but yeah. I really believe the general consensus is that this function simply isn’t as intuitive as we’d like, for starters. And thus there is that published ā€œmatrixā€ that is meant to help users to set it up for the various situations such as watch mode, exercise mode, etc.

                              That plus the fact that there seems to be a technical issue (software and/or hardware) that isn’t consistent or reliable given a user’s situation, leads to added stress and frustration.

                              This leads to ā€œworkaroundsā€. Personally, for night activities I’ve trained myself to remember to turn on backlight before hitting start. I remember to do this maybe 80% of the time! šŸ™‚

                              Literally, in this world today and as others have mentioned earlier, we’ve got to carry on, get out there and get the run/hike or whatever done regardless of expectations we put on our gadgets.

                              I work for a software development firm (Agile/DevOps, 2-week sprints). Development moves swiftly. Requirements and feature requests are in abundance. We’ve all become demanding consumers. Sci-fi movies fuel our expectations. Good things are in the works surely for Suunto and the fitness/wellness technology industry.

                              I’ll leave this here and exit the room - Years ago there was a slogan ā€œPeople, powered by Technologyā€. I forget who or what organization came up with that.

                              While that is kind of cool, I remind myself to turn that around and see it like this - ā€œTechnology, powered by peopleā€. It kind of puts you the user in control, at least in the mental space. In other words, let’s not let the good/bad aspects of technology get to us.

                              ā€œAdventure starts with - you (here)ā€. The technology is along (with us) for the ride, not the other way around. Haha. I think this was more about me convincing myself.

                              Suunto Race Ti
                              Suunto 9 Peak Ti

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