is a system update coming ?

[olymay]

@aleksander-h I really hope not.

Also, Suunto don’t seem like the type of company to abandon all of the time and money invested into the S7 quite so easily. I would have thought (hoped?) that WearOS 3 would have excited them with what it can achieve.

The Suunto 7 was my first Suunto and I bought it because it was a WearOS device with Suunto’s excellent fitness smarts onboard. For me, it is more important to have the WearOS part, as I want a full smartwatch that can also do fitness, not a fitness watch that does a few phone notifications.
I love being part of the Suunto family and really don’t want it to end

Please Suunto, don’t abandon the 7.

[Patrick Löffler]

@olymay Same goes for me. Suunto is really on a great track with the last updates. Unfortunately for Suunto my expectation is that the trend continues. „Only“ a security patch as an update is behind what they gave us with the last updates. Please Suunto give us some cool new features/improvements. I know we just recently received Spotify offline music. But I am more interested in the Suunto app itself.

[Cristian 0]

5 Months waiting.and we didn’t get of the suggested changes… it is a bad joke. the original price was over 500…Thanks Suunto!

[olymay]

@cristian-0 said in is a system update coming ?:

7 Months waiting… it is a bad joke. the original price was over 500…Thanks Suunto!

I’m not sure how you can say it is a joke when the S7 has received more updates than any other WearOS device on the market. Has better build quality, the best fitness software, stunning screen, and best battery life (yes, even better than the TWP3).

Whereas companies like Fossil churn out low quality devices that fall apart within a few months, offer minimal support and barely any updates. Only to replace them in under a year and then forget they ever existed.

Suunto have now supported the S7 for over 18 months with regular substantial updates. Yes, it has been a while since the last update, but I strongly believe there will be more to come and that it will be worth the wait.

Original price of over 500? A currency would certainly be handy, because if you are talking about 500 acorns then it is a bargain!!
In the UK it launched at £420 and was worth it for the quality and features and ongoing support.

[Aleksander H]

@cristian-0 we got more updates than I would have expected to be honest. And if we aren’t getting any more (that’s an if), I’m very glad they’re still doing security patches.

[Cristian 0]

@olymay I could do a list of the very basics things this watch doesn’t have and we can even find in any other sport watch or even in vintage sportwatch… but you are a gold member… I don’t really think I have to enum you the missing features. I love this watch and the maps feature does this watch almost unique but it is still incomplete.

This forum is full of request and seem nobody is listening to the users.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@cristian-0 I don’t think Suunto is obliged to deliver some features to you just because you requested them.

Each thing costs to be developed. Quite a lot actually.

[olymay]

@cristian-0 said in is a system update coming ?:

@olymay I could do a list of the very basics things this watch doesn’t have and we can even find in any other sport watch or even in vintage sportwatch…

OK, go on then. But I will save you some time, as if you are referring to external sensor support etc, then it does work with the watch. Yes, you have to use a different app, but that is one of the strengths of any WearOS device, if it doesn’t do everything you want out of the box, there is almost certainly an app for it.
And don’t forget, this is a smartwatch, not a sportwatch.

but you are a gold member… I don’t really think I have to enum you >the missing features.

You leave my member out of this
But in all seriousness, I am only a gold member because I have made lots of posts on this forum. Some compliments, some complaints, some suggestions, some help for other members.

I love this watch and the maps feature does this >watch almost unique >but it is still incomplete.

It is the most complete of any WearOS device I have seen (and I have used quite a few of them!). I say it is even more complete than the new Samsung, mainly because it doesn’t lose features if you use a non-Samsung phone (as long as it’s Android, obviously).

This forum is full of request and seem nobody is listening to the customers.

Suunto do listen and they do respond. For example, the issue of external sensors was explained by not wanting to affect battery life. Which judging the impact of using Bluetooth headphones with the watch, is a serious hit.
Yes, I would like to have the option. But Suunto have made their decision and explained it.

[Cristian 0]

@olymay said in is a system update coming ?:

You leave my member out of this

I am not talking about pairing sensors, I am talking about any other feature regarding on the sport modes: intervals, auto-lap, etc.

I included that information because you are a very active member of this forum and you know better than me what the users are requesting.

best regards

[Aleksander H]

@olymay said in is a system update coming ?:

You leave my member out of this

[olymay]

@cristian-0 but the S7 does auto-laps and has a running interval mode. Granted, they aren’t super advanced or over customisable, but they are there. And still better than most alternatives.

Remember, this is a smartwatch first and a fitness watch second. The fact that it has as much of the Suunto App on it at all is pretty incredible.

Would I want a WearOS device with S9P features and battery? Hell yes!
Is it physically possible? I don’t think so.
Would it be astronomically expensive it it were possible? Most definitely.

I do understand where you are coming from with the features you want and why you want them. Sadly, as with most things in life, there is no perfect device out there and there will always be a compromise.
Lets not forget this is the first WearOS device Suunto have made. They are likely taking on board all feedback and looking at how to implement as much as possible into the next generation device. Whilst also working their buts off to keep the current model supported.

I don’t work for Suunto, or know anyone who does. Nor do I have any affiliation with them. I don’t have any loyalty to them. In fact, I have never used a Suunto device until 18 months ago. BUT, I have used many, many, many electronic devices (smart or otherwise) over the past 30 years and so far I am seriously impressed with the work that Suunto have done and the support they provide. Are they perfect? No. Are they doing their best to give the customer what they want? I believe so.

Which is why I think the S7 is not done yet, I believe there are more updates to come. And I really hope there will be a second gen (Suunto 7 Peak anyone??) which will truly knock it out of the park.

[sartoric]

[giulio]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos
So…no more update (improvements,bug fixes)?

[Egika]

@giulio what makes you think so?

[giulio]

@egika
I think that after 5 mont all we wait un update about improvements,feature added and this is a security update so sound like end development suunto 7…

[Jamie BG]

Commet deleted as I read further down the thread…

[Jamie BG]

@olymay @cristian-0
Take a look at the Garmin Fenix 6xPro - comes very close to being “perfect” but it has it flaws - a touch screen included on it would be awesome for map work and general navigation. Better app store.
MIssing activity types that should be easy for Garmin to add like HIIT (so you can’t even add a HIIT workout - have to create a cardio activity call it HIIT and then recreate a HIIT workout as a cardio workout) etc etc.
Look close enough at anything and you can find loads of flaws and issues; and stuff that may be a flaw for someone can be a bonus or non entity for someone else.
rather focus on the silver linings the good stuff…

[olymay]

@jamie-bg said in is a system update coming ?:

@olymay @cristian-0
Take a look at the Garmin Fenix 6xPro - comes very close to being “perfect” but it has it flaws

Problem is, what is ‘perfect’ for one person could be useless for another.
For example, I want my watch to have WearOS. I want it to be a smartwatch first because most of the time I am wearing it I am not running over hills. BUT, I also want it to be capable for when I am running over hills. And I do not want to be swapping devices, especially if that means different manufactures and locations for my data.
This is the 21st century and I should be able to use a single device for my needs and have a central location for my data. The Suunto 7 is ‘close to perfect’ for me.
(I do love Garmin for the most part, but there are some aspects of them that drive me round the bend!)

a touch screen included on it would be awesome for map work and general navigation. Better app store.
MIssing activity types that should be easy for Garmin to add like HIIT (so you can’t even add a HIIT workout - have to create a cardio activity call it HIIT and then recreate a HIIT workout as a cardio workout) etc etc.
Look close enough at anything and you can find loads of flaws and issues; and stuff that may be a flaw for someone can be a bonus or non entity for someone else.
rather focus on the silver linings the good stuff…

Your final statement is bang on. We are all different and should look at what each device offers and decide if it fits for our needs. We should weigh up the pros and cons of each device and accept any limitations that may come with our decision. It is not ‘unfair’ if a manufacturer doesn’t design and make a product specifically to me, it is life.
As you say, I focus on the good bits of my S7 (of which there are MANY) and will continue to enjoy it (and enjoy the second generation when it
hopefully comes out )

[Cristian 0]

@jamie-bg probably I am a little bit annoy because my expectations were too high around next update and it didn’t include any new feature.

I was thinking about buying a Garmin 5X plus but I was delaying it because I like my suunto 7 even with its weaknesses but I am using it regularly to do custom work outs like 10x400m , 2000+1000+2000 and is painful to have to check the watch a few times to do the session using the manual lap.

But even doing the trainings using the manual lap it works ok because we have 2 additional buttons to do it easier.

I know that is difficult to implement any new feature… but I am still thinking that a custom auto lap and a very simple interval session could have been implemented and then it could be more than a smartwatch and nearly a real sport watch. Because it is one of the basic features of any sport watch.

the battery life never was a big deal… just good way to get my wrist tan.

I don’t have the source code … but when the app is as good as it is , include new features wouldn’t be very very difficult because the hard job was done. I could think they are already thinking about a new suunto 7 version and It will come with the new one.

I am a dreamer and this was just another dream more hehe

[olymay]

@cristian-0 That’s a much happier and more positive post And pretty much very similar to how I feel

I think the S7 is a superb watch, but yes, it is not perfect.

I do agree that custom auto laps, or the ability to program complex intervals, would be an amazing addition. I won’t try to second guess Suunto as to why they haven’t included it. But like you I will ask them to include it in either an update or a next gen S7

I think you have fallen into the same trap as me, in that we have become accustomed to Suunto releasing big updates for the S7 with juicy added features, and anything less than that feels disappointing. Suunto has become a victim of their own success

Anyway, glad to hear you do still love the S7. And do keep sending the feature requests and ideas to Suunto, the more they hear from us customers the more chance they will listen