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    • surfboomerangS Offline
      surfboomerang
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      Some algorithm background from Firstbeat:

      https://www.firstbeat.com/en/science-and-physiology/fitness-level/

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        TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @surfboomerang
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        @surfboomerang is this the one Suunto is using?

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        • surfboomerangS Offline
          surfboomerang @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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          @theguyfromthesummit I believe so, but someone correct me if Iโ€™m wrong.

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            I frequently run with both my Suunto 9 Peak and Garmin Fenix 6X, and the two devices yield vastly different VO2 max values while having similar averages for pace and heart rate. Unfortunately, (for better or worse, and true or not) the lower values suggested by the Suunto 9 Peak are discouraging to a novice, and they do not seem to coincide with my perceived effort. In fact, I also had a Suunto 9 and the VO2 max values from that more closely approximated the Fenix than those produced by the S9P. I wonder if this is a known issue?

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              TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @PENNACNP
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              @matthew-robertson I do not know why, but I would trust your fenix more.

              @all Nevertheless you can not use VO2max as a fitness-indicator. It is strongly genetically limited and you should use a Lactat-Testing as a better indicator.
              Usually VO2max is used, because it changes quickly and is easier to measure.

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              • Djordje SD Offline
                Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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                @dmytro Walking and running

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                • Djordje SD Offline
                  Djordje S Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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                  @theguyfromthesummit I know that it is not reliable but again it really annoying that you see a decrese every time ๐Ÿ™‚

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                    TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Djordje S
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                    @djordje-s Ahh ok

                    have you changed anything in terms of intensity/ volume?

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                    • DMytroD Offline
                      DMytro @Djordje S
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                      @djordje-s I think it may be because of walking. If I do a few runs in a row, my VO2max grows nicely, but a couple of longer walks sink the value.

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                      • Djordje SD Offline
                        Djordje S Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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                        @theguyfromthesummit
                        I havent.Basically standard route with little change.

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                          Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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                          @dmytro So to try with few running and to see what is happening? ๐Ÿ™‚

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                          • DMytroD Offline
                            DMytro @Djordje S
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                            @djordje-s Iโ€™d suggest more running, less walking.
                            My walks also work if hr is elevated enough + speed is above 6.5kmh

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                              Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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                              @dmytro and multisport? Walking+running

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                                DMytro @Djordje S
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                                @djordje-s Iโ€™m not sure if multisport activities are contributing to VO2max. You can check this by performing an activity, then looking for it in the VO2max tab in SA.
                                I just want to say that itโ€™s my personal experience. When I go hiking my vo2 plummets as only horizontal speed is being considered by the algorithm. When I go walking - Iโ€™m not sure: maybe the algo considers my HR for the speed to be too high, or maybe HR is just not high enough to provide a reasonable dataset for extrapolation.
                                I heard from people on the forum that both walking and running results in reasonable VO2max values.

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                                • Djordje SD Offline
                                  Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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                                  @dmytro Also one observation.My VO2max was also low before hard reset.After that the value was high and now it decresing after every exercise ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                  • DMytroD Offline
                                    DMytro @Djordje S
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                                    @djordje-s well, it makes sense. If algo before the hard reset considered your vo2 to be low, after youโ€™ve reset the values, it needed time to converge to the similar value.

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                                      DMytro @Djordje S
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                                      @djordje-s or do you mean that v02 is now even lower?

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                                      • Djordje SD Offline
                                        Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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                                        @dmytro Its not lower as it was before hard reset but if it continue like this,it will reach old value ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                          DMytro @Djordje S
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                                          @djordje-s it kinda makes sense then. The algo needs a couple of weeks to stabilise.

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                                          • Djordje SD Offline
                                            Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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                                            @dmytro In that case I will continue to monitor and try with more running exercisesโ€ฆThank you all for prompt support and reply. ๐Ÿ™‚

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