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S9 columns display problem (bug?!)

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    gerasimos Bronze Member
    last edited by gerasimos 5 May 2022, 13:10 5 May 2022, 12:45

    does not show me the data correctly at columns display ( in the three options )

    1. reset watch
    2. reset phone
    3. update app/watch
    4. delete sport profile trail running / renew

    set in S9 column - lap number / lap distance / lap asc / lap duration and dont work correctly **it only shows me always the first effort only **

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      freeheeler @gerasimos
      last edited by 5 May 2022, 13:20

      @gerasimos
      did you try with autolaps, too?

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        gerasimos Bronze Member @freeheeler
        last edited by 5 May 2022, 13:28

        @freeheeler autolap works fine! The data is ok.
        With manual is the problem

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          gerasimos Bronze Member @gerasimos
          last edited by 5 May 2022, 13:30

          @gerasimos after autolap looks ok and manual…strange…suunto crazy thinks.
          🙃

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            freeheeler @gerasimos
            last edited by freeheeler 5 May 2022, 13:44 5 May 2022, 13:43

            @gerasimos
            I think I remember we’ve seen a similar behaviour in SA activity summary with auto vs manual laps some time ago.

            living sideways

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              isazi Moderator @gerasimos
              last edited by 5 May 2022, 14:51

              @gerasimos show me a screenshot of the sport configuration, I will replicate and check with testing firmware.

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                gerasimos Bronze Member
                last edited by 5 May 2022, 17:55

                @freeheeler @isazi ok man and thanks for help…
                Now working ok after engage autolap.
                I turned it off and try manually…and now its everything ok something like " stuck " and i notice dont keep in the memory the battery settings… after end the activities.
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                  gerasimos Bronze Member @isazi
                  last edited by 5 May 2022, 18:36

                  @isazi after second reset and delete memory cash in suunto app everything works perfect 💪🔺

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                    isazi Moderator @gerasimos
                    last edited by 5 May 2022, 19:20

                    @gerasimos great to hear this!

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                      freeheeler @isazi
                      last edited by 5 May 2022, 19:53

                      @isazi
                      maybe this is something to report anyway?
                      because when I tried with manual laps it was the same as for @gerasimos but it doesn’t make sense to initiate autolaps first to trigger manual laps later, right?

                      living sideways

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                        isazi Moderator
                        last edited by 5 May 2022, 20:10

                        I am testing now.

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                          isazi Moderator
                          last edited by 5 May 2022, 20:16

                          Okay the issue for me seems to be this: if you enable autolaps the manual laps are not visible in the “lap table” view (only the auto one are). If you don’t have autolaps then you see the manual laps. I am not sure if this is a bug, or by design. I will ask.

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                            freeheeler @isazi
                            last edited by freeheeler 5 May 2022, 21:51 5 May 2022, 20:37

                            @isazi
                            it could well be that manual laps override autolaps, which would make sense because once you push the lap button the watch assumes your training is according to manual laps and then autolaps don’t make sense anymore.
                            but maybe since you’ve tried autolaps, manual laps are now working, too? (cache issue that @gerasimos describes).
                            I’ve never tried this list with autolaps before, only today with manual laps: same behavior as @gerasimos says

                            living sideways

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                              freeheeler
                              last edited by 6 May 2022, 08:00

                              did a test, too.
                              cycling custom activity worked immediately with manual laps.
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                                gerasimos Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                last edited by gerasimos 5 Jun 2022, 08:33 6 May 2022, 08:22

                                @freeheeler exactly that is the problem…man!!
                                Sorry my English very bad

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                                  freeheeler @gerasimos
                                  last edited by 6 May 2022, 08:34

                                  @gerasimos
                                  I’ve tried both. Manual laps work and auto laps work, too.
                                  If you have auto laps activated and you press manual lap, then it is not shown in the list.

                                  But then I don’t understand the problem? 🙂 don’t worry about languages, they’re just communication tools 😉

                                  living sideways

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                                    isazi Moderator
                                    last edited by 6 May 2022, 08:59

                                    I asked if this is the intended behavior or not, an answer should come soon. I tend to think that this is the intended behavior, and not a bug.

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                                      gerasimos Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                      last edited by 6 May 2022, 09:11

                                      @freeheeler The problem is in Manual Autolap shows me only the first attempt with Autolap Off.
                                      E.g.

                                      1. Manual lap + autolap OFF = problem (saw first attempt always

                                      2. Manual + autolap ON = saw me autolaps work correct

                                      3. Turned OFF autolap = automatically fixed the manual lap problem with magic way 🙃

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                                        freeheeler @gerasimos
                                        last edited by 6 May 2022, 09:17

                                        @gerasimos
                                        that is what @isazi suspects: it could be to work this way by intention.
                                        you have to decide before the activity: manual or auto.
                                        if you pic auto and the press manual lap button it will not work.
                                        if you switch off auto and then press manual lap button it will work.

                                        to me it makes sense this way, because you either want to know every certain km, e.g. 1km as a “lap” or a segment OR you have your trail that is not exactly 1km and you want to do laps on it and you press manually… both will only cause confusion in the list: which lap was which? auto or manual… do you know what I mean?

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                                          gerasimos Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                          last edited by gerasimos 5 Jun 2022, 10:13 6 May 2022, 10:11

                                          @freeheeler yes very clear everything understand what you mean, the problem is in the start on activity.
                                          I choose autolap off from the beginning and i have the current problem with manual laps

                                          After soft reset and edit profile from beginning everything works perfect…( until now)
                                          The major problem is a lock button in time mode 😜😁

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