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    NO GOOD DATA ASCENT (AND DESCENT)

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    baro ascent problem
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    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler @Matteo Zambenedetti
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      @matteo-zambenedetti
      no… next time: don’t touch it 🙂 if alti is completely wrong, just start your activity. FusedAlti will calibrate it for you and will do it also throughout the activity when it compares to gps alti and detects it’s shifting

      living sideways

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      • Matteo ZambenedettiM Offline
        Matteo Zambenedetti @freeheeler
        last edited by

        @freeheeler OK I will do. A question: Does Fusedalti start automatically when I start my Activity?

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        • isaziI Online
          isazi Moderator @Matteo Zambenedetti
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          @matteo-zambenedetti yes, during the first 15 minutes.

          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

          Blog: isazi's home

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          • Matteo ZambenedettiM Offline
            Matteo Zambenedetti
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            Good morning everyone,
            I return to the subject to post some files to better explain my problem.
            First of all, I don’t understand why SUUNTO does not provide software for pc but only apps for android (or mac) …
            So, this is the screenshot of my hike according to the data of my 9 Baro and the app Suunto Screenshot_Suunto.jpg in my phone

            ASCENT 3168MT!!! UNREALISTIC!!!

            and this is the screenshot of the same track but downloaded on Openrunner softwareScreenshot Open Runner.jpg

            ASCENT 1368MT!!! REALISTIC!!!

            and this is the track.gpssuuntoapp-Hiking-2022-06-19T00-32-03Z-track.gpx

            can anyone help me to understand and solve the problem?
            what is the exact procedure to follow before starting a hike or a bike ride?

            I apologize if I can’t answer right away but I’m working and I don’t have much time

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            • ? Offline
              A Former User @Matteo Zambenedetti
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              @matteo-zambenedetti what is the problem?
              If you start higher than 1800m, and climb till 3200…at least roughly: 3200-1800=1400.
              You have some other climbs on the graph, but also, you start higher than1800, so I can’t understand where is the issue.

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              • cosme.costaC Offline
                cosme.costa @Matteo Zambenedetti
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                @matteo-zambenedetti Can you also share the ascent graph in the Suunto phone app?

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                • Matteo ZambenedettiM Offline
                  Matteo Zambenedetti
                  last edited by

                  the problem that openrunnere says I climbed 1368 meters (correct) while summarized says that I climbed 3168 meters (wrong)

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                  • Matteo ZambenedettiM Offline
                    Matteo Zambenedetti
                    last edited by

                    the .gps track that posted before cannot be opened?

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                    • cosme.costaC Offline
                      cosme.costa @Matteo Zambenedetti
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                      @matteo-zambenedetti I understand that the watch says the same than the Suunto app, am I right?

                      I want to see if the ascent graph from the watch has spikes, so it means that for some reason the baro sensor has been blocked (skin, jacket, wind,…) and for that reason you have higher ascent than expected.

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                      • Matteo ZambenedettiM Offline
                        Matteo Zambenedetti @cosme.costa
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                        @cosme-costa I understand what you mean. I therefore report the profile of my excursion: you will notice that there are no peaks.
                        However, if there were, Openrunner would have had to show me the same rise as Suunto. My problem is why was my 9 baro wrong?
                        Screenshot_2022-07-05-17-06-02-08_b14a9358fd6881e7ef1642d19c4cec95.jpg

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                        • freeheelerF Offline
                          freeheeler @Matteo Zambenedetti
                          last edited by

                          @matteo-zambenedetti
                          because of several small spikes that I can already see without zooming in… maybe the other platform filters it by default? Strava filters by request

                          living sideways

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                          • Matteo ZambenedettiM Offline
                            Matteo Zambenedetti @freeheeler
                            last edited by

                            @freeheeler Does your 9b the same?

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                            • freeheelerF Offline
                              freeheeler @Matteo Zambenedetti
                              last edited by

                              @matteo-zambenedetti
                              yes, when the wrist strap is too tight and baro holes seal on wet skin, it catches wind gusts or wet garment is covering the baro holes…
                              check with your next activity and a bit looser wrist strap ✊

                              living sideways

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                              • Matteo ZambenedettiM Offline
                                Matteo Zambenedetti @freeheeler
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                                @freeheeler Ok thanks, I will try this week-end.

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                                • cosme.costaC Offline
                                  cosme.costa @Matteo Zambenedetti
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                                  @matteo-zambenedetti As @freeheeler says, you can see the small spikes that are adding ascent. The shape of the profile is quite correct as it is the min and max height, but during the activity it has been adding small ascent. And as it has been said probably because the baro sensor has been blocked.

                                  I only have had this situation once and it was because it was raining and I was wearing the watch over my membrane jacket and the jacket blocked intermittently the baro sensor.

                                  BTW, in which hand were you wearing the watch? Did you use poles? I ask this because this could increase the chances of blocking the sensor.

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                                  • Oliver_ZO Offline
                                    Oliver_Z
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                                    I’ve the same problem here (Suunto 9 baro). Most times when i start the descent, it adds more and more meters to ascent (real ascent was about 1100 m and real descent was 1900 m; at the end of the activity I had 3300 m (!)

                                    Weather was stable; not much wind, barometer was free… but anyways… the watch is made for outdoor sports; or not?

                                    The climbing activity is complete useless. After a few minutes there are unrealistic ascents and descents of several 100 meters.

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                                    • freeheelerF Offline
                                      freeheeler @Oliver_Z
                                      last edited by

                                      @Oliver-Zamberger
                                      please share your alti graph

                                      living sideways

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                                      • Oliver_ZO Offline
                                        Oliver_Z @freeheeler
                                        last edited by Oliver_Z

                                        @freeheeler
                                        357bd4e2-25a3-4b24-a5eb-1fad5d37c52d-image.png

                                        As you can see it the issues starts when descending (it was yesterday). At the end I it added about 200 m more in ascent (and descent too).

                                        Ascent/Descent in reality: 635 m
                                        Ascent/Descent from the watch: 850 m

                                        The longer the activity is, the more the deviation goes up

                                        And here the climbing graph (completly useless):
                                        05cb4f4f-f824-4817-9662-7d29af1484ef-image.png

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                                        • cosme.costaC Offline
                                          cosme.costa @Oliver_Z
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                                          @Oliver-Zamberger From what I see in the graphs, for some reason you or something are blocking the baro holes, so you have a pumping effect. Maybe your skin, maybe wind, maybe some of your gear… It could be that the sensor is faulty as well but I would try to analyze how was your activity and detect what could have blocked the baro sensor (the very few times that I had this I could identify the causes to avoid it in the future).

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                                          • Oliver_ZO Offline
                                            Oliver_Z @cosme.costa
                                            last edited by Oliver_Z

                                            @cosme-costa Actually there was nothing blocking the baro holes (no shirt or something else). It just could be the skin; but movements are natural in activity. It’s diffcult to not use the hand while climbing…So maybe the baro is placed on a wrong place on the watch; maybe it should be placed on top side of the watch?

                                            on the first graph I didn’t use the hands much; just walked downwards and the hands were all free

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