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    S7 one hit wonder that will never see any updates!!!

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    • BinoWorld UKB Offline
      BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @Guest
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      @Metalmi I don’t blame you nice line up

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      • JANTIKAINENJ Offline
        JANTIKAINEN Bronze Member @BinoWorld UK
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        @BinoWorld-UK
        I haven’t been expecting anymore updates in a long long time.
        But have to admit that S7 is a pretty solid watch in it’s current state.

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        • BinoWorld UKB Offline
          BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @JANTIKAINEN
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          @JANTIKAINEN Fair enough! It’s a good watch but in the current sports watch world it falls short behind many brands, even the cheap Chinese Huwaei, Amazfit……

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          • ? Offline
            A Former User @JANTIKAINEN
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            @JANTIKAINEN I would say that “pretty solid” is too optimistic 🙂 Battery life kinda sucks and there are hiccups every now and then.

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            • Zoran ZZ Offline
              Zoran Z @Guest
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              @Metalmi good choice with hardware and some features, but that watches look like kids toys made of cheap plastic on hand near suunto

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                A Former User @BinoWorld UK
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                @BinoWorld-UK said in S7 one hit wonder that will never see any updates!!!:

                Let’s be honest, if there was even a hint that an S8 was in the making, I think we will all be drooling wishful thinking

                I, for one, was wrong to buy this watch, although I must admit I loved it in the first few weeks… then those hiccups every now and then in the middle of the workouts. For sure my son is happy now to run with dad in the mountains with his new S7 🙂

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                  A Former User @Zoran Z
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                  @Zoran-Z Pro 5 will be made of premium materials, we’ll see today. But anyway, I’d rather have smartwatch with good battery life and without critical issues, than good looking one.

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                  • Jamie BGJ Offline
                    Jamie BG Bronze Member
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                    Bit of an unfair title considering that it received quite a few updates over a 16 month period that made some massive changes including continuous HR tracking, first beat sleep tracking, a host of suunto widgets, extended battery life while tracking etc.
                    Just go an read some older reviews and then compare them to DC Rainmaker’s review who did update his after a couple of the updates (but think he missed on some of the later bigger updates - never really went back to check if he did update them for that).
                    Effectively we did end up with a much more powerful watch approx 9-16 months post it launch.

                    It is difficult to compare to current batch of watches considering how much the landscape has moved in regards to smartwatches and to a much lesser regard fitness watches.
                    Compare the S7 to the original ticwatch pro, the fossil gen 5, oppo and the galaxy watch 3 and fitbits and you find that its still very comparable - which was its market competition - don’t forget that outside of fitbit none had native sleep tracking including Apple Watch. In fact the AW and S7 got it around the same time and S7 was much more complete. Gen 5 was first native wear os to get sleep tracking. The issue is that other smartwatches like amazfit, huawei etc have just upped them game much more as costs etc go cheaper and they have leveraged their experience of using first beat to basically rip it off and create their own system (not sure how good it will continue to be and whether future development will be any good).

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                    • BinoWorld UKB Offline
                      BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @Jamie BG
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                      @Jamie-BG Jamie, I agree with most but, it’s fair to say that it’s a still a one hit wonder because they dropped the updates all together. Take AW even. S3 will still be getting latest software updates.

                      Suunto can’t even be bothered to implement something as simple some new stock watch faces or a weather tile of its own. They heavily relied on Wearos which we all know it’s awful.

                      I do appreciate all the latest features like body resources, sleep tracking and score, workout recovery and live HR but I can’t help but think the watch could be a lot better if only Suunto wanted to keep this watch alive since there is no successor.

                      Cheers

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                        A Former User @BinoWorld UK
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                        @Jamie-BG Yeah, it received few updates, but those mostly contained features which should have been there from the beginning, to be fair.

                        @BinoWorld-UK Might be partially due to old hardware. Even if they provided some updates, hardware is so bad it can’t compete with other smartwatches from last year onwards.

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                        • BinoWorld UKB Offline
                          BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @Guest
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                          @Metalmi Spot on you hit the nail on it’s head! Updates that should have been there since release.

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                          • freeheelerF Offline
                            freeheeler @BinoWorld UK
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                            @BinoWorld-UK
                            we buy watches with the specs we know and everything on top is a bonus, right? I never buy something with the pure hope that eventually some feature is being added… ok… lock function 😂 …but that’s it 😜

                            regarding no updates for stock function, I still understand S7 concept as a different type of watch where Suunto delivers the hardware with basic function and everything on top is open source…

                            don’t get me wrong, when I see your posts, I always think that you are happy with your S7 but at the same time you are scared you could become unhappy sometime, soon? no offence, honestly! I would enjoy the watch, since you seem to like it a lot (and it is a great watch!) and whatever you miss, search for it in the wearOS store 🙂 👍

                            living sideways

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                            • BinoWorld UKB Offline
                              BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                              @freeheeler Correct😉 Really like the watch but very true we cannot have it all! It would be amazing if Suunto surprised us all. Perhaps I should stop looking at other brands and wish their features were in the S7 😂😂😂

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                              • BinoWorld UKB Offline
                                BinoWorld UK Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                                @freeheeler Quick question out of topic.

                                Does the S7 provide sleep score based on HRV measurement through the night or more like movement calculated through the accelerometer?

                                My understanding is the Body resources use HRV but was wondering if the concept is the same for sleep score?

                                Cheers.

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                                • freeheelerF Offline
                                  freeheeler @BinoWorld UK
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                                  @BinoWorld-UK
                                  I’m sorry, I don’t have a reliable answer to that question. When I used S7 last winter, I found sleep tracking very precise and hence would guess so, but it’s just a guess. I remember I’ve tried sleep tracking with my S9B for some time with 24/7 HR toggled off and it was basically useless compared to 24/7 HR switched on.

                                  living sideways

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                                  • Jamie BGJ Offline
                                    Jamie BG Bronze Member @BinoWorld UK
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                                    @BinoWorld-UK
                                    The S7 first beat sleep tracking is approx 2 years old now, and is the very original version, so am not quite sure what is used and how.
                                    Can advise that the latest first beat sleep tracking (per Garmin watches) uses HRV to determine Body Battery (Resources for Suunto); but your sleep score is based off Duration, HRV, Restlessness/awake, HR (mainly around Deep stage - seems less impact on Light and REM which is probably just as well as it struggles to differentiate between the two which isn’t surprising).

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