Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a

freeheeler

@Bradleyd
I did “races” when I did not have a gnss watch… but to me it is obvious: you warm up and you can already put your watch in start screen. this can be around 30mins or more before the start.
I know somebody who tracks warmup and cooldown at race days, too

isazi

@Bradleyd the easiest way is to go to the start screen well in advance. I usually open the screen already in the waiting area.

This doesn’t mean Suunto shouldn’t solve this issue with AGPS on weekends, it’s weird and bad, but it’s a good idea anyway to go on the activity start screen in advance.

Bradleyd

@isazi and @freeheeler, this makes logical sense: get HR and GPS locked and confirmed well before going to the starting line.

On a side note, “fused-speed” is an unbelievably cool feature and great backup for flakey GPS.

Tieutieu

AGPS is back this morning on my S9B

jussim

Ah, good to know the reason. I was wondering why it was taking unusually long to get GPS locked in recent weeks. Here’s hoping for a permanent fix soon.

Milan Šádek

@isazi Is it only S9 related problem? I received a GPS twice within 20-30 sec last Saturday with my S5. And yesterday, it was superfast - something like 15 sec only. Normally, I have to wait even 1+ min.

Mitch9

Now again: AGPS N/A

MiniForklift

Mine is all good right now

freeheeler

@MiniForklift
what time and date is your AGPS?
because mine is N/A…
but Suunto knows

cosme.costa

I think Suunto should start to check this issue seriously, if they aren’t. Seems that is only S9/S9B related, if I’m not mistaken S5 uses the same Sony chip so issue should come from another place.

AGPS file is valid for some days 2/3/4 days but issue here is that with a sync we loose a valid AGPS file because SA pushes an empty/corrupt file.

These small things downgrades a lot the experience with the watch, I can accept that from time to time we have this issue with the AGPS but the last months we’ve have it several times, and at least 3 weekends on a row now.

BTW, I know that I can go to the sport screen some time before, I do it but this is not the way. I not always have the time. I mean, right now I’m in the middle of the cros season, I run and my kids too, so most of the times I’m in a hurry, therefore I need that the GPS locking works, not spend my little time before the start with this. In my experience, when we don’t have AGPS file, even if we wait for the lock, if we don’t wait enough time the track will be quite bad, I guess is because the lock is done with the minimum satellites and the watch struggles a lot to keep this or acquire more satellites.

Mff73

@cosme-costa
agree, mainly on the technical point that, depending on dates, a “still valid” AGPS file should be kept in case of “bad one” (if it is detectable beforehand ). In such cases, watch could :
1- keep old data
2- warn user (or SA ? ) that something is beginning to goes wrong when AGPS is about to expire.

el2thek

I have today’s AGPS on my 9B.

Tieutieu

No AGPS again for me today…
Tried to uninstall/reinstall SA (who knows ! :p) but still no AGPS file.

cosme.costa

@Mff73 I don’t remember well but I think that Coros tells you if the AGPS file is still valid or you need to sync the watch to get and updated one. I guess this is useful when you don’t sync the watch regularly in the case of Suunto with the background sync is not needed, but …

@cosme-costa said in Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a:

In my experience, when we don’t have AGPS file, even if we wait for the lock, is that if we don’t wait enough time the track will be quite bad, I guess is because the lock is done with the minimum satellites and the watch struggles a lot to keep this or acquire more satellites.

Same experience here with non-Sony chip Ambit3 too. Not sure what is going on with AGPS data on servers, but sometimes it’s really frustrating me.

MiniForklift

@freeheeler said in Suunto 9 Baro AGPS n/a:

@MiniForklift
what time and date is your AGPS?
because mine is N/A…
but Suunto knows

Um, well mine has gone back to being N/A as of this morning

freeheeler

@MiniForklift
I bet it will receive the next AGPS tomorrow morning.
…based by observation

MiniForklift

It doesn’t seem to affect anything for me just from having a couple of runs when it’s been N/A. Still literally a few seconds for it to find and click to a satellite(s) and the GPS and tracking during the run appears to be unaffected

freeheeler

@MiniForklift
once it locks satellites and you maybe wait 2-3 breaths all should be good. it just takes slightly longer until that happen, but not necessarily.

cosme.costa

@MiniForklift @freeheeler I’ve had different experience, from long GPS lock, more than 10 minutes to a fastish lock with a quite bad track, yesterday happen the last in a race.
For me is quite annoying this issue, usually I run at 6 am and I only have one hour, so I don’t have time to wait for a GPS lock that long.
Fast GPS lock is a minimum for a GPS device. In my opinion, as I have said I understand that issues happen, and this one can happen from very long time to time, but not as often as it has being happening the last months. Moreover this has been happening on weekends, when one usually races or does longer activities.