Newbie question on ETA and POIs

Ged E

I have just started using a Suunto watch and have a couple of questions that I hope someone can answer.

When I have a route the watch calculates an estimated time of arrival and seems to default to a pace of 8km per hour. I can see how to adjust this (down!) but have to do it every time and wondered if I could change the default pace.
As a separate but related question, can I make adjustments to the eta based upon height gain/loss. I am hoping for something like Naismith’s rule! Is that possible (as it seems like a straightforward and sensible option).
A separate question, I can see how to add a point of interest on the watch during a walk but I note that there is no way to annotate this from within the watch. I was hoping to be able to download the POIs and save them elsewhere with some notes attached however it doesn’t seem to be easy to download the POIs at all. I am sure that there is a way to do this as again it would seem like a sensible option. (I often look for rare plants and would like to remember where I found them so that I can check them the following year!)

Thanks in advance

isazi

Welcome to the forum!

@Ged-E said in Newbie question on ETA and POIs:

When I have a route the watch calculates an estimated time of arrival and seems to default to a pace of 8km per hour. I can see how to adjust this (down!) but have to do it every time and wondered if I could change the default pace.

Is this in the app or the watch? I think the app. Could be a nice feature request.

As a separate but related question, can I make adjustments to the eta based upon height gain/loss. I am hoping for something like Naismith’s rule! Is that possible (as it seems like a straightforward and sensible option).

Again, for the watch or the app? On the watch it could be possible with a S+ app, for the app this could be another feature request. A very interesting one even.

A Former User

@Ged-E said in Newbie question on ETA and POIs:

I am hoping for something like Naismith’s rule!

it would be cool!!!

Ged E

@isazi
I think that it must be the app that does the calculation but obviously it transfers that to the watch.

For “Naismith’s rule” I would be happy if I could apply it in either the app or the watch.

Ged E

@gi0vanni I take it that means that it isn’t possible currently. Seems a bit weird that they haven’t implemented that.

isazi

@Ged-E said in Newbie question on ETA and POIs:

@isazi
I think that it must be the app that does the calculation but obviously it transfers that to the watch.

There are two different things: the app gives you an estimate on how long the route will take based on the speed you provide during route creation, the watch computes ETA/ETA etc. during the activity based on your current speed.

Ged E

Ah, OK.
Do you know how to change the settings on the app (which was my question)?

Any idea about the POI question?

isazi

@Ged-E said in Newbie question on ETA and POIs:

Ah, OK.
Do you know how to change the settings on the app (which was my question)?

There is no way that I know (if someone knows, please comment) to change it for all future plannings, I simply change it during the creation (or while editing a route) clicking on the estimate.

Any idea about the POI question?

If your question is how to export POIs from the app to some external system, that is not possible, there is a feature request here in the forum somewhere.

Ged E

@isazi Thanks very much you have been extremely helpful

Ged E

How would I make the feature request to implement the Naismith type functionality?

isazi

@Ged-E describe your idea in this area of the forum and wait for votes. I will try to implement an on-watch S+ app to give you a remaining duration of your route during activity using that formula, and show it to people at Suunto to ask for it to be considered.

DMytro

@isazi that would be very useful! Also there’s the German alpine society (DAV) formula where you count like this:
Longitude 1h per each 4km
Ascend 1h per each 300m elevation gain
Descend 1h per each 500m.elevation loss

Add times for elevation gain/loss, compare to the time for longitude: half the smaller of the two and add to the larger of the two.

Example: 15km round tour with 1500m elevation gain/loss.

3h45m for 15km
5h ascend
3h descend

So 3h45m vs 5+3=8h, therefore we half the 3h45m and add it to 8h:
8h+3h45m/2=9h53m

The times are ± realistic, maybe one could set adaptive coefficients for better precision.