Is the Suunto app still being developed?😉

[The_77]

@Sascha-Domres said in Is the Suunto app still being developed?:

However, I would have absolutely no problem if this were only done online and via the app.

So essentially, what’s there is fine, you just don’t wish to save the route to send it across, only to send the point to the watch? I imagine that would require the watch calculating the rerouting, which is only a Garmin feature for years at this point. Would be lovely ofc.

Maybe this post should be moved if you’re mostly talking about watch firmware update speed I guess?

[Sascha Domres]

@The_77 Regarding moving the post… I’m not sure if it’s due to the development of the app or the firmware or both. I suspect that the software is still in the hands of SportsTracker? Maybe they always have to free up capacity for Suunto first… I don’t know. Some functions may work without adjusting the firmware… so I’d leave the post here… there are already other postings about the frequency of updates to the watches

[Sascha Domres]

@ilstrup and unfortunately the number of POIs is still very limited… I have saved a lot of them and was surprised that only a few are displayed… I think a maximum of 15 or so

[wakarimasen]

@Sascha-Domres Vantage V3. Can’t say I noticed much difference in the performance of aligning. I didn’t try to zooming on the Polar.

[dulko79]

New iOS beta just got released. It took some time to download. Activity summary has been redesigned, I like the card look. I wonder what more is hiding under the hood.

[ChrisA]

@dulko79 agree - looks nice

[VoiGAS]

A great feature would be Release notes. But the Suunto community seems to love treasure hunting (to find the changes). Lets see what the crowd will find - there is a separate thread for it

[thanasis]

@dulko79 said in Is the Suunto app still being developed?:

New iOS beta just got released. It took some time to download. Activity summary has been redesigned, I like the card look. I wonder what more is hiding under the hood.

How do people get the beta ?

[Ghost]

@thanasis On iOS, download TestFlight.

[thanasis]

@Ghost I have TestFlight . But I assume someone needs to share the app or a token , right ?

[sartoric]

@thanasis
search the forum, there’s a thread about it, but I’m not sure there are slots still available

[Ghost]

@Sascha-Domres Hopefully, they are not developing the app just for you, as I imagine your comments might be a bit frustrating for the developers. Personally, I appreciate how Suunto takes a careful approach to updates—it reminds me of Apple. The “no change seen” feeling is actually intentional, ensuring a seamless and user-friendly experience.

[Sascha Domres]

@Ghost Well, I really hope that they program the app for me as a user and know how to use constructive criticism. If the changes aren’t even announced in a beta, that’s not transparent. Communication works differently. Maybe it’s frustrating for the programmers, it could be… For users and buyers, it’s incomprehensible and disappointing. In the long or short term, that will affect purchasing behavior… There really can’t be anything better for a company than for users to voice criticism… I can’t confirm the meticulous update policy you mentioned. Without this forum (which isn’t particularly well-known or official), many users would be helpless… Look at all the bugs and how long it takes until there’s official movement in the form of fixes… Customers have to search forums to get help. That’s absolutely not transparent or communicative on Suunto’s part…

[Ghost]

I get your point, but I see it differently. Suunto prioritizes stability over rapid, flashy updates, which is why changes might not always be immediately visible or announced in beta. That doesn’t mean they’re not happening. Transparency is important, but so is a careful, well-tested rollout to avoid unnecessary issues. As for communication, while this forum may not be official, it still serves as a valuable space for users to share insights and solutions. No company is perfect, but Suunto’s approach to updates seems more about reliability than rushing fixes.

That said, my comment wasn’t about the substance of your remarks but the way they were expressed. In general, I don’t appreciate seeing things being dismissed or belittled just because they aren’t fully understood. Constructive criticism is valuable, but so is acknowledging different perspectives.

[Sascha Domres]

@Ghost I didn’t denigrate anything, but rather constructively criticized… we simply don’t agree. That’s not a bad thing… I just don’t like it when people assume that you don’t understand the programming… for me, results and facts count… And in my opinion, they’re taking a long time to arrive…

[Brad_Olwin]

@Sascha-Domres What specifically do you want that you do not have? For me the #1 is
Offline maps and offline routing possible and sent to watch.
Second
Calendar function for planning and interpreting training. (I can dump TP with this one).

Not much more that I need. I already only use a few S+ apps and the ones I need are there. I would like ZS baked into the firmware and I want to be able to set elevation gain as a target in the watch.

[Sascha Domres]

@Brad_Olwin First of all, it would be professional if Suunto announced the new features in the beta. You described the improvements in navigation yourself… I agree with that… the whole forum is full of suggestions for improvement… it would be great if they could implement some of them… in general, I find it exhausting to see things through fanboy glasses here in the forum… a lot of things are simply not properly reflected and very often they are sugar-coated… I am now eagerly awaiting the next big thing. There is nothing to see in the beta yet…

[wakarimasen]

Sorry but where I read ‘fanboy glasses’ I could also say ‘pragmatic approach.’ This forum is - quite frankly - fantastic, and that’s said without any fanboy glasses being worn. Polar, by comparison is a black hole.

Suunto, like all companies, exists to make money. Where feedback is given, it will carry out analysis, and implement the features (HW, SW and APP related) which will grow its market share and/ or revenue/ profit. This is of course carried out against a background of limited resources (i.e. not unlimited) and an ethos of ‘spend money to make money.’

If one of the watch brands happens to produce a watch that is the perfect for you - be happy! I would say you are in the extreme minority. Otherwise, use what you have, the best way you can, and don’t expect a custom product to be developed just for you. The forum has quite a lot of people in that bracket, who will end up just being very disappointed!

Get moving, get fit and enjoy your imperfect watch

[Ghost]

@Sascha-Domres If it’s kindness (fanboy glasses) is directed at me I’ll say this: you can criticize Suunto all you want, criticize its features, suggest improvements—do whatever you like. But dismissing the work of developers as “weak” and devaluing a company’s contributions without even attempting to understand the nuances of technical timelines and overall approach is simply a matter of poor education, and I admit I’m quite sensitive to that. If I’m a fan of anything, it’s engaging with respectful individuals.

[Brad_Olwin]

@Sascha-Domres I ask again. What do you need that the app does not have?