Incompetent graphs

[Droro]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos I for one can live (at least for a while) with route planning on SA, and data analysis on runalyze. Seems like this is suunto plan, just enable 3rd party. (including for old watches) I imagine they are counting on 3rd party to be free if that’s the case, which may prove to be false over time.

[ColdBeer]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Incompetent graphs:

To come each start of the week in this forum, seeing client X saying the same, idk but to me feels that this person is not adding anything here and rather he needs some resolution now.Especially when he dominates the conversations with the same arguments. Since here is not customer care chat, please do tell me what you are asking for with each start of the week asking the same…

Again, Dimitrios, do you really think I wake up in the morning trying to shoot someone? Really? Not, I spent a lot of effort trying to show what are the main issues on this app, and the first one is to be an “open beta” -as it’s little mature for that- and the second -but bigger- is to involve it as the main solution right now for clients. As none of those main problems are still solved.

And yes, agree too: I’m terribly frustrated and furious right now. I see I tried my best for helping here, being one of the firsts testers of the app, and even seeing the app is still far from being a solution for one of the three best sport watches brand. The brand for what I bet.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@ColdBeer to be honest i understand but i dont understand how saying the same in every possible thread can help. I would like yo hear other user opinions as well. Why dont you give space to others to be heard and have to monopolize with your opinion ?

[A Former User]

@ColdBeer
My two cents.
Let’s assume SA does not exist. I will personally revisit in 6 months and reconsider. I have totally bought into the suunto ecosystem. Currently have 5 watches.
I am not expecting miracles, nor am I happy with the general direction.
BUT, there is nothing we can do. At least in this forum. FB and other social media are a different thing. No-one can silence us over there.
We tried voicing our concerns and we are experiencing a backlash.
Let’s leave it as is.

[sartoric]

@Yannis-Belouris

out of curiosity … what you would expect to happen ?
I don’t mean as a reaction to your last words, but generally speaking.

… except something like “a delivery of new feature every week” that would be as wonderful as irrealistic

[A Former User]

@ColdBeer and @Droro
And now compare to e.g. Garmin. There is a forum too, but no community managers or developers take care of what the customers are saying. It is just a user forum. You can do feature suggestions, complain about not working functions…whatever you want. Garmin does not care about that.

Suunto listens to the customers here in this forum. What we bring up will be addressed to the developers and prioritized in the backlog. Whenever a use case can fit into their sprints and be delivered as a working package, they will develop it and send it to us.

Keep calm and if the Suunto App does not fit your needs, there are so many alternatives to use. Stay with the older Movescount, use Strava, subscribe to TrainingPeaks, buy WKO4 and dive deep into your trainings on your own. I prefer the last 2 options for myself to track and analyze my training.

And just to get to know about my background: I worked 6 years as an admin for a global Citrix environment and for 7 years now as a Computer System Validation Engineer. I know about software development as well as following regulatory procedures for Pharma companies that must be fulfilled.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Yannis-Belouris said in Incompetent graphs:

@ColdBeer
My two cents.
Let’s assume SA does not exist. I will personally revisit in 6 months and reconsider. I have totally bought into the suunto ecosystem. Currently have 5 watches.
I am not expecting miracles, nor am I happy with the general direction.
BUT, there is nothing we can do. At least in this forum. FB and other social media are a different thing. No-one can silence us over there.
We tried voicing our concerns and we are experiencing a backlash.
Let’s leave it as is.

Can you explain to me how :

We tried voicing our concerns and we are experiencing a backlash.

That is all you understood from all this?

I even have started to ack most of the requests and shared that all development is Stewart towards your votes on this forum.

I am now really down about this personally.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@Yannis-Belouris said in Incompetent graphs:

No-one can silence us over there.

I am very mispleased to read this… Who has silenced you? Can you explain? In detail

[estevez]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Incompetent graphs:

@ColdBeer to be honest i understand but i dont understand how saying the same in every possible thread can help. I would like yo hear other user opinions as well. Why dont you give space to others to be heard and have to monopolize with your opinion ?

Well, my opinion is very similar to @ColdBeer´s.
However I will give Suunto some more time… I take SA as beta app, which is in development, and I hope Suunto will work hard to make it usable. What I am concerned more is Ambit3F full (sic!) support (incl. activities / watch settings, custom apps, etc.) + web environment.

[ColdBeer]

@estevez Answer if you want: when did you test for the first time SA beta?

[estevez]

@ColdBeer I have been using it cca 4-5 days (I know it´s a few days), however I am using Movescount.com primarily…

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

Hi all,

I can acknowledge that new charts and fullscreen will be in the next betas to arrive here.

Do you want some sneak peak?

[ColdBeer]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Incompetent graphs: Do you want some sneak peak?

Are you joking? Sure!

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

The above is FullScreen FYI (click to zoom)

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

Also horizontal view

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

Same for analysis

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

There are other goodies as well

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

We listen, we do listen to the users and we do our best to deliver.

If that does not meet your requirements for x,y reason then it’s ok. At least we try our best

[remib]

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Incompetent graphs:

There are other goodies as well

Hi,
Any chance that it works with Ambits 3 ?
Thanks for the news anyway

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@remib no not yet any news for Ambits. We got tons of feedback that ambits do not like / want the suunto app so there is alignment first to be done