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    April Transition Update

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Digital service transition
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    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Guest
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      @Yannis-Belouris 😮 I just realized I have no real packaging to double check.

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        A Former User
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        The way I read this is that the forced transition to the new platform is accelerated and nothing new has really been promised. A3 owners or anyone else who want to continue using Movescount will lose ability to sync wirelessly with Movescount by end of 2019 if they lose or upgrade their phones and have to reinstall apps.

        Meanwhile Garmin has released 945 with 36 hour battery life in best GPS mode. I can’t believe I say that but moving back to Garmin after almost 7 years now seems more likely.

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          A Former User @Guest
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          @silentvoyager by 2020 fenix 6 will be out and will the s9 successor.
          By then suunto will have introduced some features in FW and SA but what will give it the edge?
          Galileo is playing catch up. Training/recovery/metrics is something delegated to 3rd parties.
          At least with polar there is a roadmap of expected features.
          Anyway, we wait and see what the future holds.

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          • Mff73M Offline
            Mff73 @Guest
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            @silentvoyager
            Movescount App will not be available anymore in appstore, but installed one will still be usable.
            So wireless sync still possible until further notice.
            I read this like that

            Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
            Suunto Vertical all black
            Wife : S9PP
            SA: Always the latest beta :)
            Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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              A Former User @Mff73
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              @Mff73 said in April Transition Update:

              @silentvoyager
              Movescount App will not be available anymore in appstore, but installed one will still be usable.
              So wireless sync still possible until further notice.
              I read this like that

              Yes, that’s why I added “if the phone is lost or upgraded”. My phone will actually be due for upgrade around that time.

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              • Mff73M Offline
                Mff73 @Guest
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                @silentvoyager
                Trust in some forum guys here or there, there will still be some apk (for Android at least) to install it without playstore 😉

                Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                Suunto Vertical all black
                Wife : S9PP
                SA: Always the latest beta :)
                Android 13, Galaxy S205G

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                  coldrainsnow Bronze Member @Guest
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                  @silentvoyager said in April Transition Update:

                  Meanwhile Garmin has released 945 with 36 hour battery life in best GPS mode. I can’t believe I say that but moving back to Garmin after almost 7 years now seems more likely.

                  Yup, it’s nice to hear from Suunto (three months later) but I can’t help feeling that they are about to be left behind in a massive way.

                  I certainly will be jumping ship to Garmin or Coros if they don’t integrate FULL functionality for my Ambit 3 in the new Suunto app. The ability to edit sport modes, routes, LOI, etc.

                  It really is a shame that such quality hardware falls victim to poor software and customer service.

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                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @coldrainsnow
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                    Hey hi @coldrainsnow ,

                    @coldrainsnow said in April Transition Update:

                    customer service.

                    … just a question as I am collecting feedback about customer service I think you don’t mean customer care/support etc. Right?

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                    • Chris SchulzC Offline
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                      I am truly in disbelief at the standard of communication from this company. I have trusted suunto products since being an early adopter of the Vector. I regularly write little apps for my Ambit3 and this was the major selling point for me. There has been simply no word on a road map for support. Seriously considering the opposition.

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                      • EgikaE Online
                        Egika Platinum Member @Guest
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                        @Yannis-Belouris said in April Transition Update:

                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos will have to check my original packaging. Because back then SA was only available in beta from and a very crude one that is.

                        This 9 packaging clearly referencing to the app, not MC
                        A2DB80BF-B77A-44BA-ACF6-C0F41A919EA6.jpeg

                        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                        Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                        Run Lime

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                        • ? Offline
                          A Former User @Egika
                          last edited by A Former User

                          @Egika date of purchase? I bought mine July 2018. Will check when I get home.
                          Not that it matters that much, but still

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                            Egika Platinum Member @Guest
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                            @Yannis-Belouris
                            Manufacturing date says more than purchasing date.
                            You never know how long it has been sitting in the shelves.
                            This one is from week 25 2018.
                            Same.
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                            t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                            Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
                            Run Lime

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                              amasidlover Bronze Member
                              last edited by amasidlover

                              All I can see from this latest update is that as of end of 2019 as an Ambit3 user, unless I maintain a backup of the APK and a compatible phone, I will lose:

                              1. Sports settings for multi-sports.
                              2. Ability to create complex workouts
                              3. Ability to configure notifications
                                (and other things in movescount web that I don’t use).

                              I’ve notified Suunto customer support that unless they can provide a timeline for providing those features in some other form (via Suunto App if necessary) and specifically the 1st one, that I will be expecting a refund under the UK Consumer Rights Act 2015 - since I believe it is reasonable to expect the software for the watch to last as long as the hardware (limitation of 6 years under the act and my watch is only 4 years old).

                              Other users in the UK / EU may want to try the same.

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                              • Saverio RamirezS Offline
                                Saverio Ramirez @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                It would be good to have a web app besides mobile app (also after discontinuing Moves count.com), in order to manage analytics and watch/activity settings from a big screen and keyboard on not from the phone.
                                Thanks

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                                  John van Winkel Bronze Member @Saverio Ramirez
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                                  @Saverio-Ramirez maybe you can use ‘real vnc’ to control your android from your pc? its popular among raspberry pi users, maybe it can help.

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                                  • FrancoisF Offline
                                    Francois Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                    A1/A2 watch owners were displeased a LOT when Suunto said on the first announcement that MC would go away. I think they wanted to let know to these users that they are changing plans / working on a solution for them.

                                    Considering your emphasis on “a LOT”, if what you are saying is true (and I hope it is), it would have been wiser from them to explicitly write something like “A1/A2 users should be assured that we are working on a solution to keep their watches working after the transition”. As far as I can see, this update barely acknowledges that a problem exists, but kicks the can of solving it down the road. It’s not really reassuring in the end.

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                                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Francois
                                      last edited by

                                      @Francois good point

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                                        Spree Bronze Member @amasidlover
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                                        @amasidlover That is not how the UK law works, I’m afraid. 6 years is the “statue of limitation” for finding/communicating issues that are considered to have always been present on a consumer good - it is not the limit of how long a product (any product) is supposed to last.

                                        If that was the case, every product should have an explicit 6 years warranty, and this is clearly not the case.

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                                          • Evangelos KopasakisE Offline
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                                            @silentvoyager You can find it in your app library on Google play store!

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