Web interface - data analysis - future

[freeheeler]

@auxina
I really also would like to see SW (Suunto Web)… QS is pretty nice to survive in case SW will never come.

…telemark bindings are better from the US I think …the Norwegians are the patent holders but the US design is better… off topic off, again

[Dave80]

@auxina

I see I compared the Suunto 9 without the barometer with the 5/5s/5plus and that de 5 series has a barometer. However the regular S9 is € 280 here, while the 5plus is almost twice as mutch. Apples and oranges I know. I just compared the G5 and the S9 (and went for the S9 last week). I didn’t notice the barometer difference since I don’t attach any value to it. My bad.

[Mi_chael]

@TELE-HO said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

@auxina
it’s only about the question if you prefer US or EU companies…
…and if you can live without web interface!

And Structured Intervals also…

[Václav Král]

Hehe, I have few friends with Garmin and they use probably 10% features of their watches (activity measuring, time, notifications from mobile). I have S9 and I’m probably using 80 - 90% features of my S9.
So, this is very strange ratio price / power

[Mi_chael]

For me, My S9 is a great piece of HW but

I miss him waypoints/POI. I know it’s on the way…

and more adjustable intervals. The actual intervals timer is good with its screens but a little more configured will be great.

[fejker]

@Václav-Král said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

Hehe, I have few friends with Garmin and they use probably 10% features of their watches (activity measuring, time, notifications from mobile). I have S9 and I’m probably using 80 - 90% features of my S9.
So, this is very strange ratio price / power

So you are using 80-90% of the features on the S9 … activity measuring, time, notifications from mobile.

[auxina]

@Dave80 said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

5plus es casi el doble de mordisco. Manzanas y naranjas, lo sé. Acabo de comparar el G5 y el S

Good buy.
Enjoy!

[Václav Král]

@fejker Seriously, I´m using Suunto 9 24/7. I take them off only to charge. I´m measuring everything what they can. I´am also using sunset info, thunderstorm alarm, height, compass, navigation, 24/7 HR, steps, calories, sleep, first beat features… allmost everything
I do not understand why someone buys an expensive Garmin with tons of features and only uses activity tracking, notifications and time…

[freeheeler]

@Václav-Král
because an expensive multisport watch makes almost everyone look like an athlete

[sartoric]

@TELE-HO said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

@Václav-Král
because an expensive multisport watch makes almost everyone look like an athlete

feel

[isazi]

@solid_dd what? I thought after a certain price point training is not necessary anymore, you just sit and see the stats improve

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@fejker this was very funny kudos! (really)

[james deny]

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[Pierre Beaurang]

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[Pierre Beaurang]

@washa said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

Re: [Goodbye Suunto](hello Garmin)
Hi there,
for many years i was fan of Suunto and recommend it many times. I’m also owner of M5, Ambit 1, Spartan Ultra. I bought M3 for my girlfriend, Ambit2 for my brother.
Even when i was very unhappy about shutting down of Movescount, i still believed in better future. The last time (4 months ago) i recommended Suunto 9 to my sparing partner. Now it’s all over.
Suunto App is useless, Movescount is shutted down, all older watches (i was still using Ambit for some activities) doesn’t work with supermega Suunto App (correct me if wrong).
Yesterday i ordered Garmin Fenix 6X. Even i was never fan of Garmin, if i compare functions inside watches (solar charging, nfc, music) and website (for data analysis, planning) i have to say, Garmin is far in front of Suunto now.
Now i regret that i bought Spartan Ultra last year instead of Garmin Fenix5… I wanted to stay with the same platform, it shows as a mistake.
Is there a way, how i can export all my activites from Suunto for usage in any other 3d party solution for data analysis? Can you suggest something?
Thank you very much in advance and, sadly, goodbay.

Hi, even if I reply to an old topic, it is today the 8th of May and Suunto App is still a sh*t. I am an early bird of the Suunto Spartan Ultra watch (paid dear and naughty) but I have always been very happy of its accuracy and hardware features.
I used movescount during years despite few bugs and un-enhanced features.

Now, seeing suunto put all the efforts to the hardware and nothing (really nothing valid) in software made me taking now the decision to turn to the Garmin side as well.

[zvonejan]

This is completely understandable. You are not the only one

[Bulkan]

Have you tried Qs?

I find Suunto app more convenient most of the times. Sure and web interface could be useful and here had been debated a lot.

[vgnjhd]

Based on my so far experience with Garmin vs Suunto (Fenix6ProSolar, SuuntoAmbit3Peak):

Garmin :
Pros : Flexibility and lots of power to control of setup, Much better accuracy of Baro / Alti, Web interface, Planning routes much faster,
Faster Customer service support response. Clear response on IP Renages for Firewall.
Cons : Trouble with navigation (planned route) - down to GPS + Gallileo && GPS + Glonass accuracy, - Still testing it, Battery in Garmin is definitely something everyone should complain about - as it is massive exaggeration on their end.
There is no way you can get 14 days with 24/7 tracking (without GPS)

Suunto :
Pros : Solid, Good GPS Accuracy, Reliable navigation, Simplicity in settings and look.
Cons : Lack of Support from Customer Services. - and not clear answers / slow answers, Lack of clarity on Firewall. Constant Facebook pull&push. Need to use systems to upload route (for nav) - and still no support for older ranges of watches, and you need to spend more time to plan your route - to add all PoI etc, - it is good - as forces you to know better whole route - so in case of any failure - you memorise more things and not fully relying on technology, but it is bad - as no full support on cross platform GPX / KML with build in POI. - and using MC for POI takes ages. Battery life reduced for both Watch and Phone since SA release.

Suggestions / Conclusions?.
I know that supporting older product is not in interest of any company - as they need to sell something better every day.
But here’s the point - they got products that were working perfectly fine - and had loads of control over everything - then all that was taken away by migrating to SuuntoApp - leaving people with 50% of what equipment was capable of doing (in terms of human - device interface / experience) - in other words - you got a gift - but then you had to give back 50% of it - vs you got 50% of gift to begin with.
Not all people want rely only on Apps, and using phone for everything. I like the semi analog approach - but proper Web interface would help a lot.
It would be also good - if Suunto got approach for 2 apps rather than one (one for syncing movements, changing settings, and the other one for analyzing all stats etc) . - maybe then it would reduce battery consumption.
Removing Facebook would be also good - and have clarity on Firewall settings.

[pavel.samokha]

@vgnjhd said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

Lack of clarity on Firewall. Constant Facebook pull&push.

Could you describe the issue you have?

[TheGuyFromTheSummit]

@vgnjhd said in Web interface - data analysis - future:

Based on my so far experience with Garmin vs Suunto (Fenix6ProSolar, SuuntoAmbit3Peak):

Garmin :
Cons :
There is no way you can get 14 days with 24/7 tracking (without GPS)

Don’t they say: 14 days in smartwatch-mode? so no tracking

Suunto :
Cons : Lack of Support from Customer Services. - and not clear answers / slow answers.

Yes, I totally agree with you. It always takes me weeks to get an answer (most of the time only on facebook or twitter and then it is like “I don’t know, send it to support if it is still under warranty”)