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@TELE-HO incident detection is useless (in the Garmin world) unless you have your phone with you, and there is service.
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
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@isazi
yes, there are limits, that’s true…
that’s why I carry an emergency radio for some activities -
@Juanjo-Payá said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
- backlight turning the wrist up (like Fenix 5 or Apple Watch!!!)
- incident detection (see Garmin incident detection)
99% of my activities have no cellular service so incident detection is worthless and if it will impact the battery I would not be in favor of this. I realize for cycling or other activities where there is cellular service and you carry a phone this might be helpful. I carry a satellite communication device for this reason.
I do not want tilt to turn on backlight, it would just burn through battery. I purchased my S9b for races that will last up to 48h. The S7 has the tilt to wake features and they work well. I don’t think the S9b is the appropriate watch to have this feature. If it did not impact battery life I would be fine with this. -
@Brad_Olwin I hope that, if they implement it, it’ll be controlled by a switch. Also, would be cool to have it only at night.
Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti
Blog: isazi's home
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@TELE-HO When I was navigating a route yesterday - noticed it showed a number of the side (100m) but without a scale for reference. Ie. I didnt know how much of the screen equaled 100m.
Adding a little bar to the scale perhaps? Unless, is the diameter of the screen the scale? -
@Jonathan-Schwarz Did you also notice a dotted circle drawn on that screen? The number represents the radius of that circle. In my opinion, it’s quite self-explanatory and adding a scale bar there would just be messy
SV: fingers crossed :D
S9 (non-baro): died after 2 months, replaced, holding strong since 03/20
Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto! -
My wish for next S9 firmware:
- next S9 firmware
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@inkognito It could have been diameter just as easily. You have to know it’s radius beforehand. That’s not difficult to find out, of course, but it’s not “self-explanatory”.
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@Fenr1r
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@Fenr1r Ok. So, you are the arrow in the center. Around you there is a circle / “countour line” with “100 m” mark. What sense would it make to have diameter written that way?
(material engineer / solid state physicist here 
)@TELE-HO I see units there: m / km depending on the zoom
SV: fingers crossed :D
S9 (non-baro): died after 2 months, replaced, holding strong since 03/20
Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto! -
@inkognito
I don’t
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@TELE-HO I believe we were discussing navigation
SV: fingers crossed :D
S9 (non-baro): died after 2 months, replaced, holding strong since 03/20
Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto! -
@inkognito The same sense. As @Jonathan-Schwarz noted above. Just as a you-in-the-environment vs environment-around-YOU sense. Cartesian vs radial. And, on my SSU at least, the placement of that number doesn’t help to make it clear. Part of the problem on your pic is that the number breaks that line: it should be inside at least. [Occasional graphic designer]
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what do you mean? the 100m is measured, I suppose, from your position to the dotted line. It seems very clear to me. The fact that the number is above the line is a mere display choice, but the dotted line takes away any duage
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@Fenr1r I got your point. But as Suunto is intended to be used during sport, you want to keep things simple there. During high intensity run when you cannot think about complex things, when you see waypoint close to “500 m circle”, do you really want to think “oh, it’s close to 500 m circle, so the distance is 250 m”?
I think the simplest solution would be to write one extra sentence in the user guide. Once you learn this thing, you use it without thinking.
SV: fingers crossed :D
S9 (non-baro): died after 2 months, replaced, holding strong since 03/20
Spartan Trainer: casing broke after 23 months, repaired, lost watertightness 5 months later, died
Despite some pretty bad luck, I still love Suunto! -
@inkognito said in Future S9 firmware wishlist summary:
I believe we were discussing navigation
sure, we are… but navigation screen is one of several screens and the others don’t contain units.
Of course it’s clear to everyone who has setup his watch him/herself that it is either metric or imperial and most of the values are self explaining as no one measures altitude in cm… as you say: keep it simple.
I use units a lot every day and I would be used to use units to complete icons.
But for me the world keeps spinning even without units
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@inkognito Very well put, incl. suggestion. That is the only way Suunto thinks you should be using navigation: at speed on a set route. I hike, so I see that screen when recording a track and it seems … rather narcissistic. But priorities can differ …
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@Saketo-Nemo It’s interesting that some instinctively see diameter and some see radius. I’m starting to think ego plays a part. Are you in the world or does it exist around you? And if both: there’s our confusion.
I don’t think the dotted line helps distinguish at all: it’s a circle. Just depends on how you like your pi.
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@Fenr1r
Ø or R would help here
