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    kukubau @sartoric
    last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 14:52

    @sartoric said in Feedback Export GPS File:

    In fact you cannot export GPX for an activity , only FIT files

    Bummer! See my previous reply.

    Bye Suunto, 5 Suunto watches later!

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      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @kukubau
      last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 14:53

      @kukubau because of the GPX ? For realz? Like GPX are now obsolete files only used by routing mostly. Most important they lack the valuable info your watch records etc.

      I don’t know man. If you are going to leave Suunto for a GPX export good luck.

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        sartoric Moderator @kukubau
        last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 14:53

        @kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:

        @sartoric said in Feedback Export GPS File:

        In fact you cannot export GPX for an activity , only FIT files

        Bummer! See my previous reply.

        Bye Suunto, 5 Suunto watches later!

        Farewell

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          isazi Moderator @kukubau
          last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:04

          @kukubau you’ve been provided with a workaround, you don’t like it, but don’t pretend it doesn’t work (like you did for messages on end).

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            kukubau @Mff73
            last edited by kukubau 29 Jun 2020, 15:04

            @Mff73 said in Feedback Export GPS File:

            @kukubau
            Once you are here
            f7932aef-1ca8-4a74-b582-8000aaca1673-image.png
            you should save your “My route” and once saved, you may have the option to Share this “My route” route.
            And this sharing will give you a link to download GPX.
            Workout --> Saveto Route --> Share saved route = GPX

            @Mff73 said in Feedback Export GPS File:

            @kukubau
            Once you are here
            f7932aef-1ca8-4a74-b582-8000aaca1673-image.png
            you should save your “My route” and once saved, you may have the option to Share this “My route” route.
            And this sharing will give you a link to download GPX.
            Workout --> Saveto Route --> Share saved route = GPX

            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos @Mff73
            Once I save “My Route”, shouldn’t I find “My Route” saved somewhere on my phone or within the Suunto app?

            Well, I can’t find “My Route” not within the Suunto app, nor as a file in my iphone storage. Once I click SAVE, this dialog closes and I’m back to screen 1 (picture 1 from the print screens I’ve posted).

            This is something that I wanted to ask previously.
            Thanks.

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              isazi Moderator @kukubau
              last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:08

              @kukubau you have your list of routes in the explore/routes tab.

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                kukubau @isazi
                last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:09

                @isazi said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                @kukubau you’ve been provided with a workaround, you don’t like it, but don’t pretend it doesn’t work (like you did for messages on end).

                I’m sorry, that is not a workaround. I’m not pretending. It DOES NOT work, because that feature was no implemented.

                I haven’t posted here to quarrel, I’ve posted here in good faith and to have a constructive discussion.

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                  isazi Moderator @kukubau
                  last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:10

                  @kukubau you don’t want to have a discussion, you want to be right. Bye.

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                    kukubau @isazi
                    last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:11

                    @isazi said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                    @kukubau you have your list of routes in the explore/routes tab.

                    I have no such thing in the Suunto app on my iphone. Most likely this is available just for Android OS.

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                      Mff73 @kukubau
                      last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:14

                      @kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                      @isazi said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                      @kukubau you have your list of routes in the explore/routes tab.

                      I have no such thing in the Suunto app on my iphone. Most likely this is available just for Android OS.

                      Don’t you have something like that ?
                      654e71e7-7030-4757-91a8-cf94cec9ac84-image.png

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                        Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                        last edited by Fenr1r 29 Jun 2020, 15:15

                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                        Like GPX are now obsolete files only used by routing mostly

                        I can see how FIT files are more appropriate (/essential) for runners and others who record biometrics in their exercises but Suunto continues to market to hikers and long-range trekkers for whom the GPX remains the common currency (along with KML/Z).

                        A FIT file does not, as far as I know, contain multiple routes, tracks, POIs as a GPX can. The latter is a versatile format for recording AND planning (and sharing, deliberately minus biometrics) … and those aren’t obsolete requirements for hikers, or those who carry out long expeditions.

                        Does SA import FIT files and extract routes therefrom?

                        Until FIT files do all that GPX can, GPX will not be obsolete for many hikers and trekkers.

                        Mind you, those hikers and trekkers might be obsolete to Suunto.

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                          Egika Platinum Member @kukubau
                          last edited by Egika 29 Jun 2020, 15:19

                          @kukubau GPX export in iOS there.

                          First tap here
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                          Then here
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                            kukubau @Mff73
                            last edited by kukubau 29 Jun 2020, 15:19

                            @Mff73 said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                            @kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                            @isazi said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                            @kukubau you have your list of routes in the explore/routes tab.

                            I have no such thing in the Suunto app on my iphone. Most likely this is available just for Android OS.

                            Don’t you have something like that ?
                            654e71e7-7030-4757-91a8-cf94cec9ac84-image.png

                            No. Thanks.

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                              sartoric Moderator @kukubau
                              last edited by sartoric 29 Jun 2020, 15:22

                              @kukubau
                              which app version do you have ?

                              @Mff73
                              Which is the last ios one ?

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                                kukubau @sartoric
                                last edited by kukubau 29 Jun 2020, 15:24

                                @sartoric

                                1.40.0 (8191)

                                iphone 7, ios 13.6

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                                  Egika Platinum Member @kukubau
                                  last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:25

                                  @kukubau posting frequency is high. did you see my screenshots? You have that too!

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                                    Mff73 @Egika
                                    last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:28

                                    @Egika
                                    i let you help 😉 you have the right screenshots (mine is a one found here on the forum 😉 @sartoric )

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                                      kukubau @Egika
                                      last edited by 29 Jun 2020, 15:29

                                      @Egika

                                      Thank you!

                                      Hidden in the app’s bottoms. I wouldn’t have thought that was placed under the generic “location/gps” icon.

                                      Unbelievable bad software design. Does this app come with a 50 page manual? (sorry for the rant)

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                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Fenr1r
                                        last edited by Dimitrios Kanellopoulos 29 Jun 2020, 15:54

                                        @Fenr1r said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:

                                        Like GPX are now obsolete files only used by routing mostly

                                        I can see how FIT files are more appropriate (/essential) for runners and others who record biometrics in their exercises but Suunto continues to market to hikers and long-range trekkers for whom the GPX remains the common currency (along with KML/Z).

                                        A FIT file does not, as far as I know, contain multiple routes, tracks, POIs as a GPX can. The latter is a versatile format for recording AND planning (and sharing, deliberately minus biometrics) … and those aren’t obsolete requirements for hikers, or those who carry out long expeditions.

                                        Does SA import FIT files and extract routes therefrom?

                                        Until FIT files do all that GPX can, GPX will not be obsolete for many hikers and trekkers.

                                        Mind you, those hikers and trekkers might be obsolete to Suunto.

                                        You are right in most of the part and that is the point here:

                                        You want a file for routing etc -> GPX
                                        You want a file for biometrics etc -> FIT

                                        The OP/Other people want a GPX file for biometrics and I am prompting them to use a FIT File unless the other service doesn’t support it. If the service the user wants to pass his biometric data doesn’t support FIT file format, then yes I agree he needs a GPX, but no-a-days there are a lot of FIT->TCX/GPX file formats.

                                        To your question:

                                        Does SA import FIT Files ?

                                        It will soon for “activities/biometrics” and it supports GPX import for routes etc. Aligned with what I explained above that I think you agree in this “classification”

                                        PS. FIT file supports courses (routes) etc. Not 100% sure for POIS.

                                        In a side note the GPX format is an XML schema and in theory it could support whatever since i’ts an expandable parsing schema.
                                        IT’s limitation it’s not the schema but the XML structure that is soooo old way of storing data and inefficient for big data for example. (XML is a “tree” based structure).
                                        I could for example give you a GPX file that has all the biometric data. It just wont be compatible unless other parties implement my “extensions”

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                                          Fenr1r @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                          last edited by Fenr1r 29 Jun 2020, 16:49

                                          @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

                                          I think you may be second-guessing @kukubau’s desires incorrectly there. The posts suggest that all he/she wanted was a GPX file. One of the luddites like me who deliberately do not usually want a FIT file, simply an equally simple download/export of a GPX. NOT big data.

                                          the XML structure that is soooo old way of storing data and inefficient for big data for example

                                          Remember: if you want that GPX (simply the track you made [with associated timing] or a route you might follow), the FIT file is an inefficient vehicle. It is overlarge, needing to be converted in order to extract the only required data.

                                          You know far more about the file structure, etc., but there’s a reason word processors and other editors can still export into ASCII text: its leanness is an advantage when you don’t want pictures and elaborate fonts. As for age: the wheel predates me by several years and it’s going strong despite alternatives.

                                          For those other people who want their GPX with biometrics, you make an overwhelming case for FIT (as export). However, there are folks who know they want GPX for its route/track/POI versatility and commonality. Yeah, POIs: those decoupled little bastards.

                                          So … will SA discontinue GPX imports if FIT can do the job? And users be obliged to convert GPXes created on other non-FIT platforms to FIT for import to SA for xfer to watch? Efficient?

                                          TL;DR - EQUALLY SIMPLE EXPORT RIGHTS(=process) FOR GPX DINOSAURS NOW!
                                          OR AT AN APPROPRIATELY DECENT TIME AFTER COVID-20!

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