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First test with new suunto 7 firmware (small review)

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    JorgeFD
    last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 18:41

    Hi

    I tried to publish here my videos and photos but every time I add a photo I get an error 😞 so I copy all the post in Medium.

    You can read my first impressions here:

    https://medium.com/@resilientrunner/testing-new-suunto-7-firmware-43b7809ffd98

    and discuss here!

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      Brad_Olwin Moderator @JorgeFD
      last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 18:44

      @jorgefd78 Good photos and write up!

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        isazi Moderator
        last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 19:54

        Hey @jorgefd78 do you prefer your post here (lounge) or in the S7 section?

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          JorgeFD @isazi
          last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 20:01

          @isazi oh sorry! S7 is better of course

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            Brad_Olwin Moderator @JorgeFD
            last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 20:19

            @jorgefd78 Done

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              Bulkan Moderator
              last edited by 7 Sept 2020, 20:35

              Good review! Kudos!

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                JorgeFD
                last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 11:52

                for your plesure. you can compare both tracks and play with them

                c0b7a53c-b1ad-4bea-b1f1-a6b690a5c86c-imagen.png

                https://www.mygpsfiles.com/app/#8emXFP83

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                  Mff73 @JorgeFD
                  last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 11:59

                  @jorgefd78
                  nice, also not easy to compare as these are two different days 🙂 But looks nice enough.
                  what is battery consumption difference, if you have noted it ?

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                    JorgeFD @Mff73
                    last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 12:01

                    @Mff73 I can’t tell you exactly because I did the test with 80% time screen always on and playing a lot with waypoints and track. But in one hour the consumption was 20% more or less

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                      Brad_Olwin Moderator
                      last edited by Brad_Olwin 9 Sept 2020, 15:39 9 Sept 2020, 15:05

                      Here is a comparison of FusedTrack on S9b and S7
                      https://quantified-self.io/user/dwRCM1JtltMCKS5E4SYCPN0s4lj1/event/Xa3aGjmJ0SXvwBrLmNTq

                      and here is a comparison of S9b on Performance with S7 on FusedTrack
                      https://quantified-self.io/user/dwRCM1JtltMCKS5E4SYCPN0s4lj1/event/yPmxy78bSJmphqqTjU5C

                      I changed the second link to more recent one, the S7 ran out of juice before I finished.

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                        Egika Platinum Member @Brad_Olwin
                        last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 15:09

                        @Brad_Olwin thank you!
                        second link does not work for me.

                        And first link: there are some strange straight lines in the S7 track (and also a little unexpected loop)…

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                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @Egika
                          last edited by Brad_Olwin 9 Sept 2020, 15:22 9 Sept 2020, 15:22

                          @Egika said in First test with new suunto 7 firmware (small review):

                          @Brad_Olwin thank you!
                          second link does not work for me.

                          And first link: there are some strange straight lines in the S7 track (and also a little unexpected loop)…

                          1. Should work now, QS is slow for me this morning.
                          2. This is much older firmware, so compare to the second link, which is the firmware you have. I think it was improved. For me, the S7 on FusedTrack sometimes has issues when stopped or moving very slowly.

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                            Randy Penn
                            last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 15:24

                            First of all, I’m from Colorado also, so I’m very impressed with your hike! Second, the S7 track is just terrible. I can’t figure out why Suunto can’t figure out how to get even acceptable results. I don’t know if the GPS chip is that bad or what, but honestly, I’ve never seen tracks as bad as what the S7 produces on any GPS-capable watch, no matter how cheap. It’s such a shame, because I love everything else about this watch (except the battery life), but poor GPS tracks are a non-starter.

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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Randy Penn
                              last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 15:42

                              @Randy-Penn said in First test with new suunto 7 firmware (small review):

                              First of all, I’m from Colorado also, so I’m very impressed with your hike! Second, the S7 track is just terrible. I can’t figure out why Suunto can’t figure out how to get even acceptable results. I don’t know if the GPS chip is that bad or what, but honestly, I’ve never seen tracks as bad as what the S7 produces on any GPS-capable watch, no matter how cheap. It’s such a shame, because I love everything else about this watch (except the battery life), but poor GPS tracks are a non-starter.

                              I changed the second link so you have a comparison of FusedTrack on S7 with 1s fix on S9. I disagree, the tracks on the S7 are very good considering this is a 10s GPS fix.

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                                Egika Platinum Member @Randy Penn
                                last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 17:57

                                @Randy-Penn and I have a totally different experience. GPS has been spot on with my S7 so far! Can you show examples of bad GPS readings?

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                                  Randy Penn @Egika
                                  last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 20:47

                                  @Egika I was referring to the first one in Brad’s post (the link isn’t working anymore), but the second one is similar. Zoom in and take a look at it. The S7 track wobbles and jumps all over the place. I’m probably just being too picky, but I expect more accurate results than what I see there.

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                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Randy Penn
                                    last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 20:50

                                    @Randy-Penn Remember, this is with 10s GPS fix not 1s, there are a few spots where the S7 had difficulty and apparently lost the fix, this happens predominately when I am standing still, I was getting water at one of these and in one place for ~15 min.

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                                      Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
                                      last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 20:54

                                      @Brad_Olwin Did that happen in the first comparison’s Boulderfield or were you doing laps with the S7 paused or something else?

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                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @Fenr1r
                                        last edited by Brad_Olwin 9 Sept 2020, 21:06 9 Sept 2020, 21:02

                                        @Fenr1r No laps, I leave the watch running when I am doing long mountain efforts. You can see in the Boulderfield where the S9 is having issues not the S7! @Randy-Penn Both watches are on FusedTrack for the first link and both can have their issues. If I was running here it probably would have been much better as I do not see these issues when running. A lot of the mountain trips I do have slow sections.
                                        In the Boulderfield we were stopped getting water. I should add that I was using poles for both of these trips, that does not help the FusedTrack I imagine.

                                        Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                          Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
                                          last edited by 9 Sept 2020, 21:08

                                          @Brad_Olwin Interesting - the S9 did seem to be doing its own 100m (or maybe 90yd) sprints while the 7 proceeded along! Like an eager (weirdly older) dog zipping back and forth while the (odd) puppy calmly waits with the water. Thanks.

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