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    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
      Brad_Olwin Moderator @Anssi Auvinen
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      @Anssi-Auvinen A soft reset is to hold the upper right button for 12 seconds and the watch will reboot. No reason to do a hard reset now. If you use quantified self, could you post links so we can see altitude profiles? QS will allow import of Garmin fit files and will import from Suunto app.

      Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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      • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
        Anssi Auvinen @Brad_Olwin
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        @Brad_Olwin s9-g.jpeg

        This shows quite much the reason, when I waited ~3 mins at the top of the hill, S9 reached to the same elevation.

        Checked the garmin data, but I think the export from the device is not from every second so the exported gpx is not accurate enough.

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        • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
          Anssi Auvinen
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          Here’s the qs link: https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/DzCcIqqv3jthDHJHh00L

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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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            @Anssi-Auvinen then it didn’t manage to calibrate it self in time. Or calibrated incorrectly. But 1h to get a good precision is too much. Did you calibrate at start? How was the GPS conditions ?

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            • Brad_OlwinB Offline
              Brad_Olwin Moderator @Anssi Auvinen
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              @Anssi-Auvinen You can merge the two files for the same activity, that might help for looking at the altitude. Merge the fit files for S9B and Garmin in QS, there is a button for that.

              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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              • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Gps conditions were fine and I have not ever calibrated it at the start.

                Today again short ride Suunto 122+m, Garmin 185+m, Strava with elevation correction 196m+.

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                • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                  Anssi Auvinen @Brad_Olwin
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                  @Brad_Olwin You can clearly see even with that S9 data what is wrong. I repeated the same hill 4 times and it does not show the same elevation every time down or up. Right elevation came if I waited some minutes without moving.

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                  • Mff73M Offline
                    Mff73
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                    have you tried cleaning your baro sensor ?
                    too much delay in correct altitude/pressure reading may come from sensor being “blocked” by some dust or else.

                    You can eventually try also to downgrade firmware to previous one and see if your guess that it is FW related is true.

                    Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
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                    Wife : S9PP
                    SA: Always the latest beta :)
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                    • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                      Anssi Auvinen @Mff73
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                      @Mff73 Yes, I had the watch one night in water and after that i rinsed it with running water.

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                      • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                        Anssi Auvinen
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                        example.png

                        Here you can see that is just working too slowly.

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                        • Mff73M Offline
                          Mff73 @Anssi Auvinen
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                          @Anssi-Auvinen
                          Are you with Android SuuntoApp ?
                          If yes, you could also try to import the SA raw data file into QS and see GPS altitude registered by the watch. We may be able to see something different. Raw data files can be found in the phone (see this link https://forum.suunto.com/post/33052)

                          But if you sensor is clean, and “just” behave slowly, and if you think it is like that only since latest FW, i personnaly would have downgraded FW to be sure of this (if you are able to reproduce the phenomenon).

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                          • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                            Anssi Auvinen @Mff73
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                            @Mff73 Im iOS user and I think this problem started before the latest update (I have only checked data from last couple weeks), but I can try to downgrade next week.

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                            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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                              @Anssi-Auvinen can I have a QS link ?

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                              • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                                Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos here is from this morning: https://quantified-self.io/user/0NQynLXMmLPswXyjLJcHqdLJvam2/event/1WqeCPgJDXeuZsr8qH79

                                Another one earlier in the chat.

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                                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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                                  @Anssi-Auvinen could you make it public ? (click on the lock icon or press share from the menu)

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                                  • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                                    Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                    @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Now it’s public

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                                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Anssi Auvinen
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                                      @Anssi-Auvinen from what I see https://www.loom.com/share/58fff68c2bd64691b06a0d8d8033352b

                                      The flats have 2m diff. The ups 2m

                                      The start to end have 10m (within limits)

                                      Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 10.32.35.png Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 10.32.47.png Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 10.32.51.png Screenshot 2020-09-24 at 10.32.29.png

                                      To me it looks ok

                                      I wonder as well how the garmin is

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                                      • Mff73M Offline
                                        Mff73 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
                                        could it be that altitude is registered correctly, but ascent is not growing as quickly as expected ?

                                        Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
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                                        Wife : S9PP
                                        SA: Always the latest beta :)
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                                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Mff73
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                                          @Mff73 that can be for sure…

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                                          • Anssi AuvinenA Offline
                                            Anssi Auvinen @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                            @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos That seems ok, but i dont think it’s right. From previously posted qs link you can see the differences better. I have also 2 rides from june and september where route was quite same, differences in the start and the end, but june ride has 300m+ more and event the september should have more. I will try to crop them in qs for matching parts.

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