Feedback Export GPS File

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 27 Jul 2020, 14:06

@Mff73 it shouldn’t export to a GPX JSON. Its for sure GPX. Or did I not understand?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 27 Jul 2020, 14:10

@Mff73 Could be usefull if suunto servers are down

Mff73 · 27 Jul 2020, 14:13

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:

@Mff73 Could be usefull if suunto servers are down

Yes, indeed

I confirm, on my android phone, QS (in browser or in app) is saving as gpx.json. But not on Windows desktop.
I cleared cookies, still the same.

It says gpx, but after it is gpx.Json

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 27 Jul 2020, 14:14

@Mff73 You see the file is GPX. Perhaps some autocomplete ?

Mff73 · 27 Jul 2020, 14:22

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
I don’t see where there could be autocomplete, but, surely somethind on my phone side. I will see.
I click on “download as Gpx”, the name is “*.gpx” and once downloaded, the file is gps.json
Maybe file manager app is buggy.
Btw, thanks.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 27 Jul 2020, 14:22

@Mff73 it can be. Keep me posted. Perhaps try another GPX. But wait … I think I got it !

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 27 Jul 2020, 14:29

@Mff73 Ok can you try with 6.5.15?

Mff73 · 27 Jul 2020, 14:31

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:

@Mff73 Ok can you try with 6.5.15?

You did it
it works.

kukubau · 10 Nov 2020, 09:08

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

Some things that I’ve meanwhile noticed.

list itemFor Ambits / Traverse, Suunto App does not retrieve / store all the data from watch, e.g. data from power sensors like bike power meters and Stryd footpod is missing ; data recorded with Ambit apps is also missing.

Syncing your watch from using the Windows SuuntoLink app, it’ll apparently retrieve all the data, whereas using the mobile Suunto app DOESN’T.

list itemSuunto didn’t add the GPX export feature from the Suunto app, and they are only allowing export of FIT files from within sports-tracker dashboard by default. Weird.

What’s also weird, is that the GPX file that gets exported from sports-tracker dashboard (https://www.sports-tracker.com/dashboard) is a correctly standardized gpx file, holding all the data, biometrics, elevation, pois etc, whereas the one from Suunto app (Routes) is a stripped down version. I guess it was by “Save Route” design.

Why can’t Suunto add the sports-tracker GPX sports-tracker link (non-stripped GPX - https://api.sports-tracker.com/apiserver/v1/workout/exportGpx/<hashcode>) to the Suunto app ???

And the export FIT from sports-tracker dashboard website is missing. Someone has already thought of that, and developed a bookmarklet: https://gist.github.com/marguslt/b0ee7e88960b2d03de2da62a44233893

Suunto has screwed up things with their Suunto app and out phasing of Movescount service BIG TIME, leaving out features and implementing features that do not work.
It’s a PITA for having to use external services and apps like Qmapshack and Openambit, but at least they work and save all data.

sebchastang · 11 Oct 2020, 13:04

@kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos

Some things that I’ve meanwhile noticed.

list itemFor Ambits / Traverse, Suunto App does not retrieve / store all the data from watch, e.g. data from power sensors like bike power meters and Stryd footpod is missing ; data recorded with Ambit apps is also missing.

Syncing your watch from using the Windows SuuntoLink app, it’ll apparently retrieve all the data, whereas using the mobile Suunto app DOESN’T.

That’s the point! Ambit/Traverse owners would probably be fine with using third party apps if at least all the data including custom apps (from suunto app zone) were synced (through USB/Suuntolink AND Suunto app/Bluetooth).
All the data were synced with the old good moveslink2/movescount web.

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 13 Oct 2020, 07:01

@kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:

Syncing your watch from using the Windows SuuntoLink app, it’ll apparently retrieve all the data, whereas using the mobile Suunto app DOESN’T.

Hey do you have some examples?

sebchastang · 13 Oct 2020, 07:34

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:

@kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:

Syncing your watch from using the Windows SuuntoLink app, it’ll apparently retrieve all the data, whereas using the mobile Suunto app DOESN’T.

Hey do you have some examples?

Hi Dimitrios, thanks a lot for being interested in this issue. Let me precise that even with movescount app (bluetooth), all the data from custom apps were not synced, since they were with moveslink2. (As an example, if I configure 3 suunto apps on my watch profile, only one suunto app data were synced whereas all data from the 3 suunto apps are correctly synced with moveslink2 through USB).

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 13 Oct 2020, 10:00

@sebchastang yes but in movescount right not on the GPX file … Right ?

sebchastang · 13 Oct 2020, 10:35

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:

@sebchastang yes but in movescount right not on the GPX file … Right ?

Yes, that’s right. So if it is not in the GPX file, do you know how are these extra data (mini apps logs) handled ?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 13 Oct 2020, 10:47

@sebchastang those are not exported afaik. They are for being shown on the watch and on movescount

sebchastang · 13 Oct 2020, 10:58

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:

@sebchastang those are not exported afaik. They are for being shown on the watch and on movescount

Yes, but as these data are visible in the graph, I guess they have been synced with movescount.com and they must be stored somewhere outside of the watch?

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos · 13 Oct 2020, 10:59

@sebchastang yes correct I suppose in native Suunto format that is a SML file.

sebchastang · 13 Oct 2020, 11:02

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Feedback Export GPS File:

@sebchastang yes correct I suppose in native Suunto format that is a SML file.

@Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos Thanks! So I need to find a way to get the raw SML file when I sync my watch with Suunto app through suuntolink? Do you know if it is possible?

kukubau · 13 Oct 2020, 11:05

@sebchastang yes. If you happen to sync your watch with Suunto App on Android, files that are sent to Suunto App service can be found in <Internal Storage>/Android/data/com.stt.suunto/files/smlzip/

The files are as close to ‘original’ binary logs stored in the watch itself as one can currently get. Format supported by https://quantified-self.io/ . There’s also https://github.com/mrvdb/suuntoapp2gpx to convert those files into GPX.

sebchastang · 13 Oct 2020, 11:14

@kukubau said in Feedback Export GPS File:

@sebchastang yes. If you happen to sync your watch with Suunto App on Android, files that are sent to Suunto App service can be found in <Internal Storage>/Android/data/com.stt.suunto/files/smlzip/

The files are as close to ‘original’ binary logs stored in the watch itself as one can currently get. Format supported by https://quantified-self.io/ . There’s also https://github.com/mrvdb/suuntoapp2gpx to convert those files into GPX.

@kukubau Thanks a lot for this information. I will have a look to those files. I guess they are also supposed to be located somewhere on my computer (Windows) when I sync through Suuntolink ? Can you please tell me where can I get them?