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    Janfi @lohtse
    last edited by 13 Oct 2020, 21:20

    @lohtse You are totally right.

    Many others users doesn’t read/know previous “updates” about digital transition. Now, with movescount web and app popup messages they are realizing what we was discussing and warning here. For Ambit/Spartan users, the feedback is terrible on FB groups and many specialized sites like Montre Cardio GPS (in french), kikourou and others…

    So previsible. I see one positive thing : after A3P, my choice for my future watch will be more simple. 2 others brands have a mature environment with everything I need : app, web, interval workouts (incredible it is so hard to code !), and hardware is now acceptable vs Suunto hardware. The third and latest brand is very young but making very fast improvements, has an incredible hardware and the best for the end : they listen customers/users.

    Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Redmi Note 5 / MC App & SA

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      A Former User @Janfi
      last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 05:41

      @Janfi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

      @lohtse You are totally right.

      Many others users doesn’t read/know previous “updates” about digital transition. Now, with movescount web and app popup messages they are realizing what we was discussing and warning here. For Ambit/Spartan users, the feedback is terrible on FB groups and many specialized sites like Montre Cardio GPS (in french), kikourou and others…

      So previsible. I see one positive thing : after A3P, my choice for my future watch will be more simple. 2 others brands have a mature environment with everything I need : app, web, interval workouts (incredible it is so hard to code !), and hardware is now acceptable vs Suunto hardware. The third and latest brand is very young but making very fast improvements, has an incredible hardware and the best for the end : they listen customers/users.

      It is a pitty that maybe they don’t pass that feedback through suunto official channels (email, phone, suunto fb).
      What young brand has web? Only coros comes to my mind but they don’t have web afaik. I guess only garmin and polar.

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        Janfi @Guest
        last edited by Janfi 14 Oct 2020, 06:12

        @André-Faria It’s Coros, that’s why I wrote only 2 brands with “mature” environment. Web is missing for Coros. But when you see how fast they had making a consistent approach with their watches, how fast the app is evolving, the real new ideas (rotating button, track mode program which seems to be dramatically accurate, according to tests), and the overall hardware quality… Add to this the capacity to include news functions to all models (except Pace because REAL hardware limitations) and a good price for sapphire/titanium…

        I will not be surprised if in future a basic website will be proposed. They are weak for routes, but they know it. They done many more when in the same time Suunto is unable to achieve is digital transition with incomplete app, stopped website, frustrated users with removed features and many more 😒 😡

        Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Redmi Note 5 / MC App & SA

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          A Former User @Janfi
          last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 09:00

          @Janfi said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

          @André-Faria It’s Coros, that’s why I wrote only 2 brands with “mature” environment. Web is missing for Coros. But when you see how fast they had making a consistent approach with their watches, how fast the app is evolving, the real new ideas (rotating button, track mode program which seems to be dramatically accurate, according to tests), and the overall hardware quality… Add to this the capacity to include news functions to all models (except Pace because REAL hardware limitations) and a good price for sapphire/titanium…

          I will not be surprised if in future a basic website will be proposed. They are weak for routes, but they know it. They done many more when in the same time Suunto is unable to achieve is digital transition with incomplete app, stopped website, frustrated users with removed features and many more 😒 😡

          On my side, as Ambit user, I don’t trully need an website, and understand why suunto closes Movescount.
          The only part is failling is that movescount was more than an analysis website…it had apps for ambits, it was the way to manage settings, to upload routes.
          If that is integrated on the app, ok for me, I will then analyse my training on other platform and draw routes on other platform.
          In fact it is the reallity for Suunto 9 users if I am not mistaken. But not for Ambit 3 users.
          If suunto app allowed me to change settings, structured workouts (like movescount app), upload gpx, manage POIs, manage apps, that would be enough for me.
          But it won’t happen I believe. I think they will “force” to update to 9 to have this newer experience, and then people will get used and they will save money on maintaining movescount.

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            isazi Moderator @Guest
            last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 09:04

            @André-Faria said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

            In fact it is the reallity for Suunto 9 users if I am not mistaken. But not for Ambit 3 users.

            You are right, the experience for S series users and Ambit users seems very different.

            Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

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              lohtse @Guest
              last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 09:14

              @André-Faria said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

              If suunto app allowed me to change settings, structured workouts (like movescount app), upload gpx, manage POIs, manage apps, that would be enough for me.

              I would be happy with that also…But with addition of using HRM,and other pods in the app like you can with movescount app…

              Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                Prenj @Guest
                last edited by 14 Oct 2020, 10:04

                @André-Faria said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                If suunto app allowed me to change settings, structured workouts (like movescount app), upload gpx, manage POIs, manage apps, that would be enough for me.

                That would really be the transition. What we now have in reality is significant degradation not caused by hardware not being able to withstand the requirements by new platform, but purely by Suunto management decision.

                Suunto Race

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                  Prenj
                  last edited by Prenj 14 Oct 2020, 10:13

                  As the matter of fact… and correct me if I’m wrong, I think this kind of brutal degradation of quality of service and reduction of features of a watch has yet to be seen by any other sport watch manufacturer. At least of those that didn’t go out of business or stopped selling the watch years ago. (remember that Ambit3 is still being sold by Suunto and they only few days ago removed some of the now missing features from specs sheet on their website). Suunto certainly raised the bar here for unfair treatment of their customers.

                  Suunto Race

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                    Janfi @Guest
                    last edited by Janfi 14 Oct 2020, 10:19

                    @André-Faria said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                    If suunto app allowed me to change settings, structured workouts (like movescount app), upload gpx, manage POIs, manage apps, that would be enough for me.

                    I think as Ambit users we are all agree with you. We only want why we paid for. Even with no new app and stuck with the old app (which is very slow but works).

                    Suunto Ambit 3 Peak / Redmi Note 5 / MC App & SA

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                      lohtse @Prenj
                      last edited by lohtse 14 Oct 2020, 10:23

                      @Prenj said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                      As the matter of fact… and correct me if I’m wrong, I think this kind of brutal degradation of quality of service and reduction of features of a watch has yet to be seen by any other sport watch manufacturer. At least of those that didn’t go out of business or stopped selling the watch years ago. (remember that Ambit3 is still being sold by Suunto and they only few days ago removed some of the now missing features from specs sheet on their website). Suunto certainly raised the bar here for unfair treatment of their customers.

                      They have shown that Profit is more important… It actually offends me they are offering Ambit users offers on their newer watches…To me it shows that they are killing off devices to try and force us to ungrade.thus increasing their profits

                      Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                        cosme.costa @lohtse
                        last edited by cosme.costa 16 Oct 2020, 07:22

                        @lohtse This kind of offers has been there in all the brands, maybe not Garmin but definitely lots of brands.

                        As an example, I own a Sigma Rox 10.0 as bike GPS, it was launched around 2014, last year Sigma send to customers of this model a nice discount if we switch to the newer model the ROX 12.0, I didn’t take the deal and keep my old GPS. I think is good that companies offer better deals to existing customers.

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                          Prenj
                          last edited by 18 Oct 2020, 17:05

                          Anyone else got this mail?
                          Screenshot_20201018-190229_Gmail.jpg

                          Suunto Race

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                            freeheeler @Prenj
                            last edited by 18 Oct 2020, 17:26

                            @Prenj
                            no… what were the questions? Or was it an empty feedbackfield?
                            Hope you told them how amazing the ambit peak is with its ambit apps and that it lacks of integration in SA ✊

                            living sideways

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                              Prenj
                              last edited by 18 Oct 2020, 17:33

                              If I remember right something about how do I like my watch and would I recommend it with the scale from 0 to 10 and a text box to add some comment. Well you can guess what number they got from me and what I wrote in the comment section 😀

                              Suunto Race

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                                Fenr1r @Prenj
                                last edited by 18 Oct 2020, 17:33

                                @Prenj I got that as logged on via MC App about three months ago. I laughed so hard I closed it by mistake. I did not make a useful contribution to the cause.

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                                  Prenj @Fenr1r
                                  last edited by Prenj 18 Oct 2020, 17:34

                                  @Fenr1r said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                                  @Prenj I got that as logged on via MC App about three months ago. I laughed so hard I closed it by mistake. I did not make a useful contribution to the cause.

                                  That might be it. I went back to movescount app when they postponed its murder.

                                  Suunto Race

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                                    Efejota Bronze Member
                                    last edited by Efejota 18 Oct 2020, 20:56

                                    The same here! It appeared again when I logged into Movescount since a couple of months using Suunto App.

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                                      amasidlover Bronze Member
                                      last edited by 4 Feb 2021, 10:39

                                      Is there any more news from Suunto on this; I’m very much resigned to having lost structured workouts, but is there any possibility Ambit3 users will be able to send routes to their watch without a cable?

                                      As an aside; the forum software told me this thread is ‘old’ and I should consider creating a new one - yet I repeatedly see moderators closing duplicate threads - maybe the forum warning should be disabled?

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                                        Gábor Tóth Bronze Member @amasidlover
                                        last edited by 4 Feb 2021, 10:58

                                        @amasidlover

                                        I think @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos has an update on this

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                                          isazi Moderator @amasidlover
                                          last edited by 4 Feb 2021, 11:05

                                          @amasidlover said in Ambit 3 Peak Route Support for Suunto App:

                                          As an aside; the forum software told me this thread is ‘old’ and I should consider creating a new one - yet I repeatedly see moderators closing duplicate threads - maybe the forum warning should be disabled?

                                          That would be cool.

                                          Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                          Blog: isazi's home

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