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    So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?

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    • lohtseL Offline
      lohtse @Prenj
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      @Prenj said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

      Well you’ll get better “loyalty” offer from Amazon today LOL
      https://www.amazon.com/Suunto-9-Watch-White/dp/B07D5YDBNG

      lol

      BUT I want a fully featured and functioning Ambit 3 Peak.

      Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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        Jamie BG Bronze Member @regger
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        @regger - using the phone app: in the description of each activity you can add details, which you can then search on when in the summary view. For example I tend to add the EPOC details, battery usage (wear os thing), and some other bits and pieces, whether I was connected to phone, GPS mode, Fused tracking or best etc. Which quickly enables me to see all activities with that detail.

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          stromdiddily Gold Members @Prenj
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          @Prenj careful on the assumption regarding Garmin device dependency on their app or web service. Their entire ecosystem (including watches) went down w that ransomware attack a few months back.

          Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

          User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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            Prenj @stromdiddily
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            @stromdiddily said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

            @Prenj careful on the assumption regarding Garmin device dependency on their app or web service. Their entire ecosystem (including watches) went down w that ransomware attack a few months back.

            But most of the watch settings could have been changed on the watch itself and you could still download your activities to computer and upload them wherever you like.

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              A Former User @stromdiddily
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              @stromdiddily said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

              @Prenj careful on the assumption regarding Garmin device dependency on their app or web service. Their entire ecosystem (including watches) went down w that ransomware attack a few months back.

              In that time I bought an edge 530 and had zero issues setting it up and using all features that I needed. Configuration was done on the device. Files were also possible to upload somewhere and even updates could be done with the update file.

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                lohtse @stromdiddily
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                @stromdiddily said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                @Prenj careful on the assumption regarding Garmin device dependency on their app or web service. Their entire ecosystem (including watches) went down w that ransomware attack a few months back.

                Show me a web service that this could not happen too… That is just the sign of the times and is something that you expect too happen… Shutting down a perfectly good service and making people use something not suitable is not what you expect… I would have liked to see IMPROVEMENTS…But hey what do we know …

                Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                • pavel.samokhaP Offline
                  pavel.samokha @lohtse
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                  @lohtse said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                  Shutting down a perfectly good service and making people use something not suitable is not what you expect…

                  Oh, come on, even big and rich companies shutdown services all the time https://killedbygoogle.com/

                  Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                    Prenj @pavel.samokha
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                    @pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                    @lohtse said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                    Shutting down a perfectly good service and making people use something not suitable is not what you expect…

                    Oh, come on, even big and rich companies shutdown services all the time https://killedbygoogle.com/

                    Got any really relevant example like from any other sport watch manufacturer that significantly degraded the service or removed many important features of watches they were selling at the time? I’m struggling to find any beside Suunto.

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                    • lohtseL Offline
                      lohtse @Prenj
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                      @Prenj said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                      @pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                      @lohtse said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                      Shutting down a perfectly good service and making people use something not suitable is not what you expect…

                      Oh, come on, even big and rich companies shutdown services all the time https://killedbygoogle.com/

                      Got any really relevant example like from any other sport watch manufacturer that significantly degraded the service or removed many important features of watches they were selling at the time? I’m struggling to find any beside Suunto.

                      Same here… Even garmin don’t downgrade older device’s(friends still uses a forerunner 10 and a forerunner 620 which is FULLY functional) They simply incorporate them in to near platforms…

                      Suunto have set the bar as to how low they can go…

                      Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                      • pavel.samokhaP Offline
                        pavel.samokha @Prenj
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                        @Prenj https://www.polar.com/en/pptclosed Just dropped support for RC/RCX

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                          lohtse @pavel.samokha
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                          @pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                          @Prenj https://www.polar.com/en/pptclosed Just dropped support for RC/RCX

                          How long had those devices NOT been on sale and how long had the service continued after the last sale of them??? Suspect was not like suunto has done… You know, selling the watches with lots of features even when they have closed the service that supports them.Which then kills alot of features etc

                          Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                          • pavel.samokhaP Offline
                            pavel.samokha @lohtse
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                            @lohtse these devices were actually released later than Ambit1 which is supported by Suunto App.

                            Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                              lohtse @pavel.samokha
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                              @pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                              @lohtse these devices were actually released later than Ambit1 which is supported by Suunto App.

                              BEARLY supported by the app… where as the Movescount system FULLY Supported them…And the difference The Ambit 2 built on the ambit 1 as did the Ambit 3(which is still being sold) build on the Ambit 2. And the platform was built to support them(and others) A platform that I still don’t see why it has to end!!!

                              Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                                Prenj @pavel.samokha
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                                @pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                @Prenj https://www.polar.com/en/pptclosed Just dropped support for RC/RCX

                                This was their previous web platform, no? And they have a new one? And they stopped selling those product how many years (decades?) ago? No, Suunto is still in the league of their own in this.

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                                • lohtseL Offline
                                  lohtse @Prenj
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                                  @Prenj said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                  @pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                  @Prenj https://www.polar.com/en/pptclosed Just dropped support for RC/RCX

                                  This was their previous web platform, no? And they have a new one? And they stopped selling those product how many years (decades?) ago? No, Suunto is still in the league of their own in this.

                                  Thats the point am trying to make with @pavel-samokha…

                                  Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                                    pavel.samokha
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                                    @Prenj @lohtse well, you started stating that no company shutdowns their “perfectly working” service and easily proved to be wrong (I tell ya as I was being as fan of Google Reader or Google Play Music as you are of Movescount). That happens with online platforms if we like it or not, companies have their reasons to do that and limited resources. You may nag at every topic about this but nothing a mere customer can do if company has reasons to do shutdown.

                                    Opinions expressed are solely my own and do not express the views or opinions of my employer

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                                      lohtse @pavel.samokha
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                                      @pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                      @Prenj @lohtse well, you started stating that no company shutdowns their “perfectly working” service and easily proved to be wrong (I tell ya as I was being as fan of Google Reader or Google Play Music as you are of Movescount). That happens with online platforms if we like it or not, companies have their reasons to do that and limited resources. You may nag at every topic about this but nothing a mere customer can do if company has reasons to do shutdown.

                                      Google is software based and there are far far more apps out there that are as good as or better than almost all their products so you can always find an alternative yet we have no better alternatives for the watch just a function reduce device with lots of additional services/site/apps we have to sign into got get some of the functions back… Yes you will argue about android phones etc… But google services are not tied in to hardware… where as suunto is a hardware company that sells them with a software platforms as part of the package. Very different

                                      Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                                        Ennoch Bronze Member @pavel.samokha
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                                        @pavel-samokha But neither of those companies required a large, up front, financial investment from the user!

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                                          lohtse @Ennoch
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                                          @Ennoch said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                          @pavel-samokha But neither of those companies required a large, up front, financial investment from the user!

                                          Ooooooo forgot about that…

                                          Ambit 3 Peak with HRM, Movescount on Samsung S6 Active,Android 7.1.2…Suunto app installed for test only…

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                                            Fenr1r @pavel.samokha
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                                            @pavel-samokha said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                            nothing a mere customer can do if company has reasons to do shutdown

                                            There might be for those who bought their (affected) watches post-MC shutdown decision (or announcement, whichever is within guarantee-time). But probably most effectively done collectively so, not “a mere consumer”, indeed.

                                            There’s a word for selling a product the vendor knows will soon fail to operate as specified (regardless of ex-/post-sale information provision) and that cannot be repaired or replaced with like (because the failure is of the vendor’s own making). I’m just not sure if the required working period is the same as the guarantee in each jurisdiction for this hybrid hardware/software/internet case.

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