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    • sartoricS Offline
      sartoric Moderator
      last edited by

      Maybe something went nuts on satellite data … This morning my short run on the usual path was 100m off (less)

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      • freeheelerF Offline
        freeheeler @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos
        means it comes with the next update?

        living sideways

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        • isaziI Offline
          isazi Moderator @Fenr1r
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          @Fenr1r said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

          @TELE-HO Turn the graph 90 degrees counter-clockwise and play “Guess the Famous Profile”?

          That nose… I guess it’s me 🙂

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          • isaziI Offline
            isazi Moderator @freeheeler
            last edited by

            @TELE-HO not related, but I had an issue with altitude too today 🙂

            The profile is not wrong, maybe a little hiccup here and there, but the ascent/descent are: I got a 12 up 37 down in the Suunto App. Runalyze recomputes ascent/descent based on the alti data and gave me a more reasonable 48 up 38 down.

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            • freeheelerF Offline
              freeheeler @isazi
              last edited by freeheeler

              @isazi
              nice, it corrects it?
              my recording stays wrong. the value on the watch during the activity was wrong all of a sudden, the graph in SA is wrong, the total ascent is missing 1/3 of the meters the highest point was wrong and the end altitude is wrong, too. And of course it is now wrong in SA, Stravagram (hence Elevate) and QS. At least in QS I would have the possibility to correct it. But I don’t, because then it is not in line with the other databases anymore 😉

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              • zhang965Z Offline
                zhang965
                last edited by

                gpsvs.jpg

                another sad story, the same day, same exercise, left is recorded with suunto app on my phone and right is recorded with suunto9baro.

                the distance is 3.3km vs 2.6km…

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                • freeheelerF Offline
                  freeheeler @zhang965
                  last edited by

                  @zhang965
                  looks like you have a nice phone!

                  living sideways

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                  • surfboomerangS Offline
                    surfboomerang @zhang965
                    last edited by

                    @zhang965 what says the gps information in the JSON file?

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                    • zhang965Z Offline
                      zhang965 @surfboomerang
                      last edited by

                      @surfboomerang said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                      @zhang965 what says the gps information in the JSON file?

                      Wa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pa-pow!
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                      What the JSON say?

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                      • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @zhang965
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                        @zhang965 Well, it is clear that the S/N and satellite numbers are poor, that explains the poor tracks. Not sure what you can do about that but no watch would be any better with the satellite number and S/N you have.

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                        • freeheelerF Offline
                          freeheeler @Brad_Olwin
                          last edited by

                          @Brad_Olwin
                          but why is the phone’s track so much better? Cell location does not do it so much better, does it?

                          living sideways

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                          • surfboomerangS Offline
                            surfboomerang @freeheeler
                            last edited by

                            @TELE-HO power and location in device I think

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                            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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                              From what I see you start with very little satelites the bare minimum and due to the location I assume it wont improve.

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                              • sartoricS Offline
                                sartoric Moderator @freeheeler
                                last edited by

                                @TELE-HO
                                Basically … antenna

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                                  halajos Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by halajos

                                  @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                  From what I see you start with very little satelites the bare minimum and due to the location I assume it wont improve.

                                  It would be nice if the GPS icon on the activity pre-start screen changed its color (yellow/green) according to the GPS signal quality to let the user decide to wait a bit longer or just start.

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                                  • Jamie BGJ Offline
                                    Jamie BG Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                                    @TELE-HO usually your phone not only takes GPS but also uses cell tower triangulation and wifi signals to improve its location tracking. By using these multiple sources it can get an even better fix.

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                                    • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @freeheeler
                                      last edited by

                                      @TELE-HO said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                      @Brad_Olwin
                                      but why is the phone’s track so much better? Cell location does not do it so much better, does it?

                                      Yes, the cell phone can use towers and any WiFi networks for aiding in location data. The phone likely had a much better fix at start.

                                      My tracks are almost always very good. I am in a fairly rural area, run mostly on trails and I am often above tree line. My GPS conditions are ideal for the watches and I don’t see these issues. Tall buildings, dense forest and deep canyons are much more challenging.

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                                      • Fenr1rF Offline
                                        Fenr1r @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by Fenr1r

                                        @Brad_Olwin said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                        Tall buildings, dense forest and deep canyons are much more challenging.

                                        Yes, indeed. Simultaneous tracks:
                                        Spag.jpg

                                        Google Earth measured distance: 3.71km

                                        A3P (light blue): 5.48
                                        SSU (yellow): 4.42
                                        A20 (dark blue): 3.99
                                        i5+Vr (green): 2.96 [Phone + Wireless Data ON]
                                        i7+Vr (red): 3.64(5.17*) [GPS only, Airplane mode, SIM removed]

                                        *1.53km of weird westward freakout (5 trkpts) between initial fix and common start.
                                        Both watches on top of pack. Clearly neither happy about it.

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                                        • zhang965Z Offline
                                          zhang965
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                                          Screenshot_20201125-193610.png

                                          Another test, s9b vs my phone
                                          3.29km vs 3.7km

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                                          • PrenjP Offline
                                            Prenj @zhang965
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                                            @zhang965 said in Suunto 9 Picasso Edition:

                                            gpsvs.jpg

                                            another sad story, the same day, same exercise, left is recorded with suunto app on my phone and right is recorded with suunto9baro.

                                            the distance is 3.3km vs 2.6km…

                                            Huh, this one’s really embarrassing. Makes me wonder if smaller phone models if they improve battery life could make sport watches completely obsolete in the future… They already have better tracks in some situations, have larger (in some cases better) screen, can be easily customized, can be used for many other things and they do all this with prices comparable to watch prices. Why shouldn’t one just strap the phone to wrist and have a “sport watch” with huge screen?

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