Sleep Tracking Question

[pikeviewer]

So, I reset my sleep hours to 11:00 PM to 8:00 AM. As is my habit I took the watch off to take an evening shower, this time around 9:45 PM. I put the watch back on around 10:15 PM

This morning the watch shows me as having fallen asleep at 9:47.and awake at 8:15 AM

As far as I can tell, setting the sleep hours makes no difference. Is my watch defective or do all Suunto 5 watches do this?

[Brad_Olwin]

@pikeviewer Set your automatic DND to just before or the same as sleep time and see if that helps. If you have not done a soft reset then try that too. My S5 does not exhibit this behavior.

[pikeviewer]

Thanks Brad, I did a soft reset, then reset both sleep time and auto DND at the same times. I’ll report back on how it goes.

[pikeviewer]

Still not working properly. I set it down at about 9:40 pm, put it back on at 10:10 pm. The sleep hours are set as 10:45 pm-8:am

This morning the watch shows me as having gone to sleep at 9:39 and woken up at 8:20. The 8:20 wake up time is correct but outside of the range that I set. It shows 6:30 hours asleep and 4:11 awake. The total is the exact amount of time from 9:39 to 8:20

[pikeviewer]

Tried one more time. After doing the soft reset and setting the sleep and DNS times as described above, the problem still happens. I took the watch off around 9:30, then put it back on around 10:00 pm. Sleep and DNS times are set at 10:45. This morning the watch shows me as having fallen asleep at 9:34 pm.

I’d rather not do a hard reset and I am doubtful it will help. I figure that if I call Suunto they will want me to do that before considering anything else. This isn’t the main reason I bought the watch but I would like it to work properly. Any other ideas?

I would really like it if someone else could try this to compare.

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@pikeviewer can you please write the last example in detail ?

Thank you

[pikeviewer]

After doing a soft reset, I set the sleep hours at 10:45 PM to 8:00 AM. Then last night I took the watch off around 9:30 for a half hour. Here is a picture of the morning report in my Suunto app. I’m not sure what other details you would like. The bottom line is that the watch thought I had gone to sleep while the watch was off my wrist even though it was off my wrist outside of sleep tracking hours.

And yes, my sleep is poor. that is why I’m tracking it to see if I can improve how I sleep.

[Brad_Olwin]

@pikeviewer why take the watch off? Perhaps leave it on and see if the sleep works properly, then we can narrow the issue.

[pikeviewer]

I take it off when I take an evening shower. I know it is waterproof but I prefer to have it off at that time. I will keep it on this evening and see how it does and report back tomorrow. Here is how my watch is set. I tend to not fall asleep until 11:00 PM or later.

I thought that the purpose of setting sleep tracking hours is that sleep will only be tracked during that time.

[Brad_Olwin]

@pikeviewer Agreed but let’s see if it is a bug or an issue with your watch.

[A Former User]

@pikeviewer I have sleeping time set 10:00 pm to 8:00 am. Sometimes, if I sleep longer time and get up later, it tracked my sleeping all this time, for example today it was to 9:33. It is out from set range, but it is true.

[pikeviewer]

@mcindr Thanks for the feedback.

[Likarnik]

How about a filter, like if (HR==0) human = false;? And then don’t track sleep if !human? Is this interfering with something else?

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@pikeviewer it doesn’t exactly end at those times.

The thing is that it tries to detect if you went for ie bathroom and then back to sleep or woke up.

Without being precise on what I say it looks pretty much to 30 mins after starting Todo an activity ie walking to see if you are going to sleep again.

[pikeviewer]

so, I didn’t take the watch off last evening, then went to bed the usual time. It worked the way it should, showed me asleep at 11:00, awake at 7:14.

So, it works properly if I don’t take it off, doesn’t work properly if I do take it off for a while before bed time. Any other variations to try?

I’d still like to know whether anyone else can reproduce this.

[Brad_Olwin]

@pikeviewer I’ll test this tonight.

[pikeviewer]

Great. I tried it again last night, this time having my watch off my wrist one and a half hours before bed time for an hour, then putting it back on. In the morning my watch again showed me sleeping starting when I put the watch down. I’ll look forward to your results.

[Michał Rudzki]

Hi,

Also, I would like to ask about “awake time” on SSHR, because it always shows me 0:00, and woke uptime is always the same as my Alarm clock?

[sartoric]

@Michał-Rudzki
If you usually wake up when the alarm ring, well, it’s working as expected. If not, maybe you’re just laying in bed and not sleeping and maybe, sometimes, it’s simply not tracking it for whatever reason

The awake time set to 0 means that, in those 7 hours, you’ve always slept.

[pikeviewer]

Well, I seem to have found a work around. Last night I set the watch down for 1/2 hour, 9:45 to 10:15,then when I picked it up I didn’t put it right on my wrist. Instead, I flipped through several screens, looking at my immediate heart rate, stress level, steps, etc. I figured that that activity might stop the watch from thinking that I had been asleep.

This morning the watch showed me as asleep from 10:45, the actual time that I have set for sleep tracking to start. I was reading in bed at that point but apparently was still enough for the watch to think I was sleeping.

I’ll try repeating this procedure tonight to see if it is consistent.

I still think the programming in the next update should address this somehow.