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    dominikbalko
    last edited by dominikbalko 1 Oct 2021, 11:15 10 Jan 2021, 11:15

    Hello,

    I would like to ask for some info about elevation gain from my Ambit3 Peak Sapphire version. Last days I did some skimo on slopes, which basically means going up and down. I get differences in ascent and descent. I am sending link to some activities from Suunto app.

    This one is fine I suppose: https://app.suunto.com/move/dominik240/5ff9dc763949b537d4cac8be

    But what about these ones?
    https://www.suunto.com/move/dominik240/5ff8844a69393336976051b3

    https://app.suunto.com/move/dominik240/5ff343bd2c6ed4513da6ea86

    Is it OK to have lower ascent than descent on the same route up and down?

    Thanks for help in advance.

    Dominik.

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      freeheeler @dominikbalko
      last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 11:34

      @dominikbalko
      no, that looks strange… a slight difference, like the 34m is acceptable in my liberal point of view… but almost 400m is too much.
      The graph looks fine on all… a bit jumpy in one example but that correlates with the recorded track, too…

      did you update to the latest agps, try soft reset and all that stuff? maybe also carefully clean the baro sensor?

      living sideways

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        dominikbalko
        last edited by dominikbalko 1 Oct 2021, 12:44 10 Jan 2021, 12:30

        I am syncing the watch regularly with Suunto app, I did a full reset of watch. How to clean baro sensor? I have only washed the watch with water. I had the similiar problem with these watch, these are my 2nd one and in service I was told that this behaviour is normal due to pressure changes in time.

        Thanks for help.

        UPDATE: I have looked closely at baro opening and that little hole where I suupose the air flows in was clogged with some dirt, I cleaned it and will see if that helps. I did not realize earlier that I should look at that part too.

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          sartoric Moderator
          last edited by sartoric 1 Oct 2021, 15:26 10 Jan 2021, 15:26

          To clean it, leave it in warm water and mild soap for a while and maybe gently use a soft toothbrush, then rinse it.
          Don’t use a needle or similar thing as you can make it worse.

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            fazel Bronze Member
            last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 17:22

            What say you about this? 2 hour 45 min run on converted rails-to-trails (so almost perfectly flat). I’m assuming this has to do with temperature differences or could the barometer be faulty or need cleaning? I went from in my car (72 degrees F) to running (22 degrees F) in 2-3 min.

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              freeheeler @fazel
              last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 18:26

              @fazel
              this definitely is a hectic example of wrong altitude recording!!
              I find it crazy that this topic cumulates in the recent days… might be coincidence?!

              I’ve had a conversation with @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos because I noticed during a trial that the alti graph is drifting while I just put my watch stationary on the balcony and started an activity.
              The baro sensor is sensitiv to temperature change, BUT we should not notice it as FusedAlti corrects it on the fly (and backwards afaik).
              Maybe, just a first thought: is your sensor dirty or the holes clogged? Or did you manually adjust your start altitude before you started this activity?

              living sideways

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                fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
                last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 18:55

                @TELE-HO Does the Ambit have FusedAlti? This was recorded with an Ambit3 Peak. I didn’t think they had this feature. The crazy thing is, the first time I ran with this watch after a long period of using the 9 Baro, it performed flawlessly. But the last two times I’ve ran with the watch, both on this rails-to-trail which is flat, I’ve had elevation errors…

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                  freeheeler @fazel
                  last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 20:37

                  @fazel said in Ambit3 Peak elevation gain:

                  Does the Ambit have FusedAlti?

                  yes it does.
                  if you manually adjust altitude before the activity FusedAlti is deactivated and the elevation is more sensitive to mistakes due to weatherchange, temperature etc… but not to that extend IMHO

                  living sideways

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                    fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
                    last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 20:43

                    @TELE-HO Okay - I did NOT adjust the altitude before. So it must be something else…the ascent was corrected when sent to Strava but I assumed Strava did that as SA still has to messed up values.

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                      freeheeler @fazel
                      last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 20:53

                      @fazel
                      what graph do you see when you upload it to QS?

                      living sideways

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                        fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
                        last edited by fazel 1 Oct 2021, 21:14 10 Jan 2021, 21:14

                        @TELE-HO here’s what I see…

                        Screen Shot 2021-01-10 at 4.13.22 PM.png

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                          stromdiddily Gold Members @fazel
                          last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 21:22

                          @fazel 😬 😬

                          Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                          User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

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                            freeheeler @fazel
                            last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 21:26

                            @fazel
                            I would get in touch with customer service ✊

                            living sideways

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                              fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
                              last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 21:27

                              @TELE-HO thank you.

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                                freeheeler @fazel
                                last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 21:28

                                @fazel
                                not much help from my side, sorry.
                                Sometimes the sensor can be dirty but a graph flying higher than Everest… never seen before.

                                living sideways

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                                  Fenr1r @fazel
                                  last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 21:34

                                  @fazel said in Ambit3 Peak elevation gain:

                                  @TELE-HO here’s what I see…

                                  Run into much JFK-LAX traffic up there?

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                                    fazel Bronze Member @Fenr1r
                                    last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 22:32

                                    @Fenr1r I’m dyin’ over here…

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                                      Brad_Olwin Moderator @fazel
                                      last edited by 10 Jan 2021, 23:08

                                      @fazel that is quite a jump! Strong legs!

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                                        fazel Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                                        last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 00:03

                                        @Brad_Olwin haha. You agree - contact support?

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                                          Brad_Olwin Moderator @fazel
                                          last edited by 11 Jan 2021, 05:40

                                          @fazel make sure baro sensor holes are not clogged and weren’t. Then support.

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