Suunto app Forum Suunto Community Forum
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Suunto 9
    148 Posts 21 Posters 11.9k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler @stromdiddily
      last edited by

      @stromdiddily
      the spike-ish graph looks like hydraulics did magic on the sensor… it’s a wild guess, but possible

      living sideways

      fazelF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • fazelF Offline
        fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
        last edited by

        @TELE-HO hydraulics = water?

        freeheelerF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
        • freeheelerF Offline
          freeheeler @fazel
          last edited by

          @fazel
          my assumption… pouring rain and the baro holes right next to the wrist… it seals great and the movement could create pressure that causes a down spike. once relieved it shows an up spike.
          for our luck the recording is not set to every second as it was possible with Ambits, hence it’s somehow equalling out a bit… or let’s say it would be worse

          living sideways

          Fenr1rF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • Fenr1rF Offline
            Fenr1r @freeheeler
            last edited by

            @TELE-HO Sleeve pump effect?

            stromdiddilyS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
            • stromdiddilyS Offline
              stromdiddily Gold Members @Fenr1r
              last edited by

              @Fenr1r That’s how I normally wear it, but you’re probably right 🤷

              Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

              User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

              Fenr1rF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • Fenr1rF Offline
                Fenr1r @stromdiddily
                last edited by

                @stromdiddily said in Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands:

                That’s how I normally wear it

                But you don’t normally get this distorted result in the same conditions?

                Unless you’ve changed jacket materials or the rain on that run was unusually chubby, my beautiful theory has probably been slain by ugly fact. I’d like to be at least plausible but some other variable(s) must be at work.

                stromdiddilyS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • stromdiddilyS Offline
                  stromdiddily Gold Members @Fenr1r
                  last edited by

                  @Fenr1r new shake dry jacket (is quite nice actually lol)

                  Honestly it’s a one off, so not too concerned about it. I just thought it was interesting as I expected to see a super human type jump but instead saw fairly reasonable up/downs on the graph.

                  Always carry a flaggon of whiskey for snakebite; and furthermore, always carry a small snake.

                  User of pretty much every watch since the Ambit 3 Peak. Now back in the family w SV :)

                  Fenr1rF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • Fenr1rF Offline
                    Fenr1r @stromdiddily
                    last edited by

                    @stromdiddily Hmm.

                    Maybe less chubby rain, more beady jacket. Anyway, you’re right: add it to the PNW’s supply of post-X-Files/Twin Peaks Things Of Interest.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                    • freeheelerF Offline
                      freeheeler
                      last edited by

                      I don’t believe that S9B has very low elevation gain… I went from about 730m to about 1’250m and the total ascent is 721m. Ok there were small dips, very very small dips. But not to a sum of 200m.
                      81c75bc9-36bc-43a5-b3b6-22c9037d49cf-image.png
                      87505d4b-5fe5-418f-8b1a-c31ce751b22c-image.png

                      living sideways

                      fazelF OktanO 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • fazelF Offline
                        fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
                        last edited by

                        @freeheeler what type of activity was this?

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • OktanO Offline
                          Oktan @freeheeler
                          last edited by

                          @freeheeler not sure its a good example because you went up once and went down once. in hilly routes (many ups & downs like all my routes are) I see the differences. I guess each up I loose some elevation gain.

                          Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

                          freeheelerF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                          • freeheelerF Offline
                            freeheeler @Oktan
                            last edited by

                            @Oktan
                            actually it is a bad example as there’s nothing easier than one consecutive ascent 😉

                            @fazel
                            it was ski touring

                            living sideways

                            fazelF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • fazelF Offline
                              fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
                              last edited by

                              @freeheeler thanks. I was wondering if the hand motions were different (I assume they are) and that might have caused some discrepancy? It sounds like the accelerometer data is considered along with the barometer measurements when calculating accent. Others will know more.

                              freeheelerF 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
                              • freeheelerF Offline
                                freeheeler @fazel
                                last edited by

                                @fazel
                                it could be possible that I’ve had a similar “setup” like @stromdiddily had recently during his run. Lot of wet stuff and the sensor holes just on top of the jackets cuff.
                                When zooming in the graph I can see tiny spikes… maybe I should entertain myself tonight and count all the irregular deltas 😉
                                The last couple of ski tours gave a more reasonable result. I’m not sure if it’s this. But what I actually wanted to point out is that I have the impression that S9B is not calculating way to low.

                                living sideways

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                • freeheelerF Offline
                                  freeheeler @fazel
                                  last edited by

                                  @fazel
                                  this graph is from a hike with poles. Hence similar movement like ski touring. When I zoom in the graph is impressively less noisy. It was a dry and sunny day. I assume that raindrops and hence molten snowflakes in combo with a garment can influence the recording.
                                  I did not check the total ascent as this activity has more ups and downs plus a bike ride at the beginning and the end (and a pause for getting wet shirt changed). But just the fact that the graph has less noise is interesting, at least for me 🙂
                                  a961a6e0-20d4-4950-94e7-ed6478989681-image.png

                                  living sideways

                                  fazelF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                  • fazelF Offline
                                    fazel Bronze Member @freeheeler
                                    last edited by

                                    @freeheeler yes - your analysis seems good.

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • isaziI Offline
                                      isazi Moderator
                                      last edited by

                                      Today I experienced something similar to @freeheeler. I went running outside and it was snowing (first snow in a long while in Amsterdam!), and got 47/49 (ascent/descent) on a route where I usually get ~10 meters. Corrected elevation seems something like 12/13 (I did play a little bit with Runalyze).

                                      The common pattern seems to be rain/snow. First time this happen to me.

                                      Also, when I got home the altitude on the watch kept changing rapidly (-3 when I stopped the exercise, 0 when I arrived home, then -2 a minute later, +2 next time I checked, and so on).

                                      Currently the watch is taking a warm bath to calm down 🙂

                                      Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                                      Blog: isazi's home

                                      freeheelerF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                      • freeheelerF Offline
                                        freeheeler @isazi
                                        last edited by

                                        @isazi said in Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands:

                                        the watch is taking a warm bath

                                        you have to treat nicely what you love 😀

                                        living sideways

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 4
                                        • OktanO Offline
                                          Oktan
                                          last edited by

                                          Hi again,
                                          Sorry, but I’m still annoyed by this issue.
                                          Both S9B and A3P on handle bar, recorded exactly the same ride: S9B recorded 539m elevation gain and A3P recorded 641m.
                                          How could it be?

                                          20210405_084146.jpg

                                          Suunto 9 Baro Titanium & Ambit 3 Peak

                                          ? 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • ? Offline
                                            A Former User @Oktan
                                            last edited by

                                            @oktan said in Suunto 9 baro very low elevation gain vs other brands:

                                            Hi again,
                                            Sorry, but I’m still annoyed by this issue.
                                            Both S9B and A3P on handle bar, recorded exactly the same ride: S9B recorded 539m elevation gain and A3P recorded 641m.
                                            How could it be?

                                            20210405_084146.jpg

                                            both calibrated at the begining of the activity?

                                            OktanO 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post

                                            Suunto Terms | Privacy Policy