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    • Fenr1rF Offline
      Fenr1r @surfboomerang
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      @surfboomerang said in Hiking with battery mode Ultra:

      According to the manual only running and trail running supports fused track … Is this expected behaviour because hiking doesn’t support fusedtrack.

      It would certainly make total sense.

      Have you tried hiking (the actual activity) with running (the sport mode setting)? See how FusedTrack engages/disengages at your hiking speed(s) for comparison?

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        A Former User @surfboomerang
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        Try the same hike in best gps mode to see if there is a difference. When we hike we are slow so maybe a 2min records is enough to give something accurate.

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          surfboomerang @Guest
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          @g287-sf That’s what I wanted to find out, so I took some twists and turns in less then 2 minutes and the watch recorded those also perfectly.

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            sartoric Moderator @surfboomerang
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            @surfboomerang
            Did you navigate a route ?

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              surfboomerang @sartoric
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              @sartoric no, just recording.

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                A Former User @surfboomerang
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                @surfboomerang Did you use walking stick ? How was the track ?
                It’s to help to identify if your amrs move a lot, helping gyro captor. It’s just a supposition

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                • Mff73M Offline
                  Mff73 @surfboomerang
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                  @surfboomerang
                  And no clues in the JSON file?

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                    surfboomerang @Guest
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                    @g287-sf No, I don’t use a walking stick. Track was flat and open.

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                      surfboomerang @Mff73
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                      @mff73 I did some more tests after a soft reset.

                      Activity type “Hiking”, battery mode Ultra.
                      I have a very accurate track. It is following the roads and stays on track in corners and twists. Analyzing the samples.json, I see that GPS coordinates are recorded every second.

                      Activity type “Hiking”, battery mode Custom -> GPS mode OK.
                      Same result as above. Also GPS records every second.

                      Activity type “Other”, battery mode Ultra
                      Same results as hiking. Oh… and this activity type is still recorded as “Other6” in SA 🙂

                      Activity type “Runing”, battery mode Ultra
                      The watch starts asking to calibrate for fusedtrack. After calibration a very accurate track.
                      In the samples.json file GPS coordinates are recorded on irregular intervals. Sometime every second. Sometimes 4-6 seconds between them.

                      In the Summary.json file, I can see almost every setting I did for that activity except the battery/GPS mode. Is that setting saved in this file?

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                      • Fenr1rF Offline
                        Fenr1r @surfboomerang
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                        @surfboomerang said in Hiking with battery mode Ultra:

                        Activity type “Hiking”, battery mode Custom -> GPS mode OK.
                        Same result as above. Also GPS records every second.

                        Should that happen?

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                          surfboomerang @Fenr1r
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                          @fenr1r I would expect that I would see a GPS recording every 2 minutes in the logfile. That’s why I’m sceptic if the setting works correctly.
                          If it is really a 1 second interval recording it explains the same battery drain as when you select GPS “Best” mode

                          In the case of fusedtrack (so running and trailrunning activites), I can imagine that those values between the GPS recordings are calculated/extrapolated from values of compass and accelerometer

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                          • Fenr1rF Offline
                            Fenr1r @surfboomerang
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                            @surfboomerang Solid reasoning.

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                            • Mff73M Offline
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                              @surfboomerang
                              Maybe the JSON is not really raw data. I don’t know. Maybe the watch uses GPS every 2 minutes, but records estimated positions each second, based on différents sensors.

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                                surfboomerang @Mff73
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                                @mff73 True, that is what I would suspect from fusedtrack. If GPS coordinates are also calculated for other sport modes wouldn’t they also have fusedtrack support? It also doesn’t add up with the battery drain.

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                                  @surfboomerang i try “classic walk” with my dog in Ultra and the results are pretty good.

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                                    surfboomerang @Guest
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                                    @g287-sf That is exactly my point.
                                    How can a sport mode without fusedtrack capability and a 2 minute GPS recording interval be so accurate? Did you also watched your battery drain?

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                                      @surfboomerang this afternoon i was at 100% (14h00) now at 21h14 i’m at 92% (i use the everyday FC tracking)

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                                        surfboomerang @Guest
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                                        @g287-sf During the activity I mean.
                                        The watch predicts the time left in different battery modes before you start the activity. Roughly this comes down to 4%/hr for Performance mode and <1%/hr for Ultra mode.

                                        I selected Ultra mode this morning and started my hike with 64% battery left. It dropped 1% every 20 min. So basically 3-4%/hr. The same as when I select Performance as battery mode

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                                          @surfboomerang i don’t check it.
                                          During your activities, did you let HR sensor on ? During mine it was turned off, i turn on Suunto Plus SAFE. Maybe it.was a bad idea…

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                                          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @surfboomerang
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                                            @surfboomerang The first 15 to 20 min the watch will be adjusting FusedAlti and I guess does some other things. Dimitrios has stated before that FusedTrack does not engage for 15 min or so. Because of this, on a short exercise you are unlikely to notice that much of a difference. You will need 3-4h minimum to see a major difference in battery use.

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