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    Pavlas
    last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 08:07

    Hi,
    I wonder why the Cross-country skiing mode doesn’t count steps?
    I read in the manual that it’s so okay. Good. But what is the reason? 🙂

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      Stefan Kersting @Pavlas
      last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 09:16

      @pavlas wondering about that, too

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        pavel.samokha
        last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 09:20

        Voted. And I would also like to have separate activity types for Classic Technique and Skate Technique

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          Stefan Kersting @pavel.samokha
          last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 09:34

          @pavel-samokha and i would like to have an activity type for these kind of skiing. It’s not cross country where you’re going in prepared terrain end not backcountry because I use the for randonnee. It’s mountain skiing on bigger skis than cross country but you can’t run down like on randonnee

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            Bulkan Moderator @pavel.samokha
            last edited by 10 Feb 2021, 09:37

            @pavel-samokha And for the summer we have rollerski and skating rollerski. So in Cross-country skiing makes sense to have it.

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              Jouko Tyni @Pavlas
              last edited by 12 Feb 2021, 09:39

              @pavlas I think we experienced this a bit at some point few years ago, but it was too inaccurate due poles giving the bigger hits, not actually legs. Pole hits were detected fine, but the actual steps were sometimes so ‘soft’ that they did not count in our algorithm, also technique one has is giving great impact, not to state the style of one’s choice. Not sure if the algorithm could be taught to do the trick now, but this is not having too big of priority since there are so many other things ongoing.

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                Pavlas @Jouko Tyni
                last edited by 12 Feb 2021, 10:12

                @jouko-from-suunto Ok, I understand. It makes sense. But I can choose Ski touring mode. It counts the steps. And I think it’s a very similar exercise to cross-country skiing (classic style)

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                  Stefan Kersting @Jouko Tyni
                  last edited by 12 Feb 2021, 11:28

                  @jouko-from-suunto I experience that the step count is more precise on Garmin than on suunto. When doing housework or showering the watch counts… but that’s another thing

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                    inkognito Platinum Member @Jouko Tyni
                    last edited by 12 Feb 2021, 13:32

                    @jouko-from-suunto I get that. But what about some mainstream approximation? If it detects pole hits (it probably detects only those from the hand on which you wear your watch), then why not multiply them by 2 and get at least something. Now, when I check my daily steps history, I see values like 3k for the days when I cross-country skied 30 km… I mean, 25% error is better than having nothing 🙂

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                      freeheeler @inkognito
                      last edited by 12 Feb 2021, 22:31

                      @inkognito
                      I bet we’ll find users who want it either to the spot or not at all 😉

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                        freeheeler @Jouko Tyni
                        last edited by 12 Feb 2021, 22:32

                        @jouko-from-suunto said in Cross-country skiing:

                        since there are so many other things ongoing.

                        but I’m very curious about this one 😀

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                          Mff73 @freeheeler
                          last edited by 13 Feb 2021, 07:56

                          @freeheeler said in Cross-country skiing:

                          @jouko-from-suunto said in Cross-country skiing:

                          since there are so many other things ongoing.

                          but I’m very curious about this one 😀

                          Off topic regarding cross-country-skiing, but we will have totally new photo upload management 📸 (at least I understand that)

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                            freeheeler @Mff73
                            last edited by 13 Feb 2021, 12:41

                            @mff73
                            me too… from another post recently. very nice!

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                              Jouko Tyni @Stefan Kersting
                              last edited by Jouko Tyni 16 Feb 2021, 10:13

                              @stefan-kersting that is true, there is actually more accurate (IMHO) algorithm already developed and published in S3, but since we got a lot user feedback that it gives too little steps (when users got used to get plenty, the more accurate was not appreciated, may be target group issue too) there has not been a decision to push it to other watches. (offtopic, I’ve been moved to other tasks quite a while ago so I’m not too active in this forum, sry)

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