So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?

Mff73

@zalex said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

Due to the transition to the Suunto App I’ve some questions. Will thankfull for the answers

Where will moves store phisically - somewhere in the Web or in a smartphone? I wouldn’t waste phone memory for this.

How will I be able to view and manage moves - through some Web-interface or Suunto App only?

I use Ambit 3. As I’ve understood I will have possibility to setup the watches via movescount.com, but will have no access to moves archive and no possibility to upload new moves. That is the site will live but the most of functions will be disabled?

1- 100% will be saved in SuuntoApp cloud + xx% of data will be dowloaded in your phone to make the app working. If you feel that App storage on phone grows to much in the time, disconnect and reconnect and storage will be cleaned with only data needed to work.
2- New moves only in SA after transition
3- Old moves will still be seeable in MC web (as far as i understand), but no new moves will go there. The site will stay minimum, to see old activities and setup old legacy watches

mlakis

Is there something coming regarding Movescount routing functionality and elevation profile on February 9th, the date that Digital Service Transition seems to end? No speculation please(!), it’s only 6 days anyway

Brad_Olwin

@janfi you are welcome to be unhappy regarding the changes coming but please keep the rhetoric and language civil. Suunto employees do read this forum and they are people. This is not a vendetta by Suunto directed toward you!

francescobaldi

@brad_olwin said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@janfi This is not a vendetta by Suunto directed toward you!

It’s directed toward all of us?

Ramón Castañer Botella

Ok. Movescount site doesn’t work anymore. Big horror.
To view moves with the mobile phone is ridiculous in comparison to view them in my big PC screen.

And what about the data of the apps created by the users in Movescount side?? Is it not possible to download data apps??

I have a cadence detector for my bike and the new Sunto app only gives cadence average. Is it not possible to see a graph of cadence vs time???

I have the sensation that my Ambit3 is useless now.

A Former User

@ramón-castañer-botella said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

Ok. Movescount site doesn’t work anymore. Big horror.
To view moves with the mobile phone is ridiculous in comparison to view them in my big PC screen.

And what about the data of the apps created by the users in Movescount side?? Is it not possible to download data apps??

I have a cadence detector for my bike and the new Sunto app only gives cadence average. Is it not possible to see a graph of cadence vs time???

I have the sensation that my Ambit3 is useless now.

Have you tried to make sa sync for another 3rd party?

Ramón Castañer Botella

@andré-faria Yes thanks. Normally I use Strava and Training Peaks and it is no bad.
The problem is with the graphics for app data. These are not possible to graph.
The only possibility would be to download the app data and graph them with any kind of data treatment package.

sebchastang

@ramón-castañer-botella said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@andré-faria Yes thanks. Normally I use Strava and Training Peaks and it is no bad.
The problem is with the graphics for app data. These are not possible to graph.
The only possibility would be to download the app data and graph them with any kind of data treatment package.

For my usage, this is one of the biggest drawback with this transition to SA : lost of suunto custom apps data.
Does anybody know if there is any plan to support those app data (in the graph of the move) in the near future?

Ramón Castañer Botella

@sebchastang I completely agree with you. And if there is not any plan to support those app data at least, they could give the possibility to download the app data and so we could use an external program to represent the data.

Perhaps they have not enough software to do the calculations (I suppose the calculated files for apps are stocked at their site), perhaps they want to sell other products, perhaps…

I imagine that users will never know the truth because they aren’t never going tell us.

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sebchastang

@ramón-castañer-botella said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@sebchastang I completely agree with you. And if there is not any plan to support those app data at least, they could give the possibility to download the app data and so we could use an external program to represent the data.

Perhaps they have not enough software to do the calculations (I suppose the calculated files for apps are stocked at their site), perhaps they want to sell other products, perhaps…

I imagine that users will never know the truth because they aren’t never going tell us.

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Suunto App has been seriously improved during the past months but it really lacks support of Suunto Apps data.
Some people around this forum kindly suggest me to use other tools like “openambit” or “golden cheetah” but it seems a bit complicated.
We need a single place to handle our moves and associated data.

I was a bit frustrated to lose route creation functionality in movescount web (due to loss of ascent and descent info) but there are other tools / websites to do it and we can also manage by using import / export GPX functionnality in SA, movescount and others sites.

But we have no alternative for Suunto Apps data. Those data seems not to be synced with SuuntoLink or SA .
I don’t understand why it is so complicated to include those apps data in the graph of the move in SA. Each custom apps has a result and it is recorded just like other data (speed, distance, …)
It should have been taken into account from the beginning. We can consider a new app for managing data but not for losing data!

Dimitrios Kanellopoulos

@ramón-castañer-botella cadence should be there

Ramón Castañer Botella

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos

Yes thanks. I’ve found it. The problem is that all in the mobile phone screen all things are small and difficult to find.
It is ridiculous to change for a display in a big PC screen of 21 inches or more to a small screen of 7 inches at maximum.

Brad_Olwin

@francescobaldi It is simply a business decision. And it is a watch, not someone’s life or health. I just think there should be some perspective on this.

Ramón Castañer Botella

@brad_olwin Of course, the question is if they are going to loose or to gain with this decision in a long term.

My Ambit3 still works and possibly I will continue using it. But when it breaks I will change for brand. In fact, I have bought a Garmin for my son some months ago.

Brad_Olwin

@ramón-castañer-botella The decision is made, and not all think it was a bad decision. I’ve stated many times how the S9 baro is a huge step up for me from the Ambit line.

freeheeler

@brad_olwin
absolutely agree… of course things could be better and depending on someone’s background (mine: development) you always would find something to improve, honestly everywhere.
details on the bikes, ski bindings, watches, software, even kitchen machines or details on ski jackets and pants… I even modify them

but it is as you said, it’s not about life or death… hence I try (!) to follow the rule: change what you can change and learn to accept what you can’t change

caldirun

@andré-faria All of the above will not apply if you have Windows 7 installed on your PC, Suuntolink will not work for me and Moveslink 2 stopped working yesterday, I have an Ambit 3 paperweight, I only bought it before Christmas.

A Former User

@caldirun said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@andré-faria All of the above will not apply if you have Windows 7 installed on your PC, Suuntolink will not work for me and Moveslink 2 stopped working yesterday, I have an Ambit 3 paperweight, I only bought it before Christmas.

Windows 7 64b and Ambit 3 Peak.
I’ve used Suunto Link with no issues today

caldirun

@andré-faria I tried a lot of things yesterday, the program opens up but is not seeing my Ambit 3, Win 7 Ultimate 64bit

A Former User

@caldirun said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

@andré-faria I tried a lot of things yesterday, the program opens up but is not seeing my Ambit 3, Win 7 Ultimate 64bit

Strange.
I even had moveslink2 and suunto link at the same time without issues.
Maybe related to cable no?
If you want/can you can always upgrade to win10 for free still.