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    So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?

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      jsuarez Bronze Member
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      I decided to switch to polar. Hardware is not as good, but there is proper website and the 24/7 HR and sleep tracking is fantastic.

      In my case I bought my SSWHRBaro in Nov for Xmas present, unwrapped it and then next month or the second next month the transition was announced. That’s quite all of a sudden by my standards.

      While I feel for the Ambit users (yes, also the ones buying a dumbed down device right now from the brand’s web shop as we speak), as they are the most affected ones, for me the loss of McWeb and clear misinformation of what would come out of that transition for over 2 years was more than enough. My 500€ deserved better, or at least I have to work harder to earn them.

      And I did try to contact support from within Suunto app when the final decommission of MC was announced but never received a reply.

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      • Ramón Castañer BotellaR Offline
        Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member
        last edited by Ramón Castañer Botella

        I have a question:
        Do the new Suunto watches use the same Suunto app to see the moves than Ambits?

        If yes, I think this is a very bad option for the new watches. The mobile screen display is too small to see the graphics.

        Are there any plans to see Suunto graphs in a PC screen in a Suunto web plataform?? It’s ridiculous to depend on third parties

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          sartoric Moderator @Ramón Castañer Botella
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          @ramón-castañer-botella said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

          Do the new Suunto watches use the same Suunto app to see the moves than Ambits?

          What if it is different?

          🙂

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            Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @sartoric
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            @sartoric I have edited the post.
            The difference would be the screen size. In a PC it is much bigger

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            • Ramón Castañer BotellaR Offline
              Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member
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              I have seen today that in some users groups of site Movescount (for example “SUUNTO AMBIT FAMILY USERS”), there are many Moves that have been uploaded today (12.2.2021).

              Has Movescount closing the same date for all the world or have these users direct call with God???
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                Brad_Olwin Moderator @Ramón Castañer Botella
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                @ramón-castañer-botella For me the Suunto App is perfect, what I need when I have it in my pocket. Movescount was not sufficient for my analysis and I think for a lot of individuals. So, third party sites with much more sophisticated analyses were available. Now it is trivial to sync to those partners. I see this as a win, much better than the more difficult transfers with MC (at least I often had issues and not much variety). The routing on MC was ok but I used 3rd party sites because I need slope angle shading etc. That works much better now for importing into Suunto app. I guess it depends on your perspective, I can use a PC when I need it and not when I don’t.

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                  jsuarez Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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                  @brad_olwin Why do we have to make a choice, one or the other? Correct me if I’m wrong, but with good old MC you were able to sync to some of those 3rd party services, right?

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                    jsuarez Bronze Member @Ramón Castañer Botella
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                    @ramón-castañer-botella Maybe 3rd party APIs are still open and those users used a bridge app such as syncmytracks or similar… who knows.

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                      Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
                      last edited by Ramón Castañer Botella

                      @brad_olwin Yes, I see your point.

                      But if you are going to buy a new watch and you would choose between two brands one of them with a complete web site analysis with beautiful graphs and the other with only mobile graphs and depending on 3rd parties, what would you choose???

                      I think the answer is obvious.

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                        Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @jsuarez
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                        @jsuarez Maybe, who knows…

                        If 3rd party APIs are still open this is the solution to our problems.
                        😊 😊

                        I don’t think so. Perhaps there are some Movescount servers that are still working.

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                          margusl @jsuarez
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                          @jsuarez , APIs are still open, as far as I can tell, only app keys of Movescount mobile apps and Movesöink2 were revoked. You can browse throuh those Moves - https://www.movescount.com/groups/group2318-Suunto_Ambit_family_users - some are just manually entered, some are indeed synced by 3rd parties (like MXActivityMover) and some are from Spartans / S-line and probably synced through some older Suuntolink.

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                            sartoric Moderator @Ramón Castañer Botella
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                            @ramón-castañer-botella said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                            I think the answer is obvious

                            Sure.
                            The watch lead my choice 🙂

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                            SSSWHR BARO Amber - 2.8.32
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                              Brad_Olwin Moderator @jsuarez
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                              @jsuarez Not all that well and I always had problems with routes, on a Mac they were problematic, especially long routes. Many times they never worked and that was frustrating.

                              Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                freeheeler @Ramón Castañer Botella
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                                @ramón-castañer-botella
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                                  jsuarez Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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                                  @brad_olwin Then that part clearly needed rework. No wonder you are happy with the new system.

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                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @Ramón Castañer Botella
                                    last edited by Brad_Olwin

                                    @ramón-castañer-botella said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                    @brad_olwin Yes, I see your point.

                                    But if you are going to buy a new watch and you would choose between two brands one of them with a complete web site analysis with beautiful graphs and the other with only mobile graphs and depending on 3rd parties, what would you choose???

                                    I think the answer is obvious.

                                    Personally, I think the Garmin graphs are pretty useless on their web site, Coros doesn’t have a website so that leaves Polar, who doesn’t have navigation. I don’t need beautiful graphs, in fact the graphs on TrainingPeaks are not that great, but the analysis and planning are first rate. So yes, my choice is obvious and I went from an Ambit3P to a Spartan Ultra (which was a mistake) and then to the S9 baro (the latter as it is perfect for ultra marathons and SkiMo), the two sports I most commonly engage in.

                                    Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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                                      A Former User @jsuarez
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                                      Not all needs are the same.
                                      Almost only used movescount for changing setting and apps.
                                      I always prefered to make cycling routes on ridewithgps and now komoot (both are said to “partner” with suunto app to have integration).
                                      Regarding training analysis, material followup I did it offline with Sporttracks, but with Suunto App I discovered runalyze and it fulfil my needs. It is almost all in one.
                                      Each one has different preferences and needs.

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                                        Ramón Castañer Botella Bronze Member @Guest
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                                        @andré-faria Of course, you can use 3rd parties or even you can download the data and use a graphic PC program (Excel for example) to do your own analysis.
                                        In fact, I can translate all my Suunto apps to Excel and make whatever I want as graphs, comparison between Moves, weekly summaries, etc.
                                        But it is a matter of comfort to have all this possibilities in the same web site of your watch brand. And personally I prefer a better web site that a mobile app but I understand that not everybody thinks the same thing.

                                        New Suunto App has a very good point because it compares routes with the same path and put it in order by time. But I you want to look inside some of this moves individually then with the mobile app it is not comfortable. The uses of tabs in a website is be better.

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                                          ollemelin Bronze Member @Brad_Olwin
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                                          @brad_olwin

                                          Polar offers routes to the V2. Same-ish as suunto

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                                            Brad_Olwin Moderator
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                                            @ollemelin said in So, what are you going to do after Movescount closes?:

                                            @brad_olwin

                                            Polar offers routes to the V2. Same-ish as suunto

                                            Not really, the implementation is poor. More difficult to draw, no heatmaps and more difficult to use on the watch.

                                            Vector/T6c/Ambit 3 Peak/S5 Copper/S3/S7 Ti/S9 baro Ti/S9P Ti/S9PP Ti/Vertical Ti/Race Ti/RaceS/Ocean/Wing

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