• Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Register
  • Login
Suunto app Forum Suunto Community Forum
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Register
  • Login

Number of downhill runs in alpine skiing

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Suunto 9
downhill skiingsuunto 9 baroalpine skiing
36 Posts 12 Posters 3.3k Views 12 Watching
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • M Offline
    MdzOtt
    last edited by 25 Feb 2021, 21:42

    Re: Number of downhill runs in alpine skiing

    I am new to S9. I just used it for the first time with Alpine Skiing (Downhill). I did 13 runs on a local hill. The watch reported 62 runs and once the data was passed on to Strava, Strava shows it as 125 runs! Though, Strava was able to correct the vertical to 2183 m.

    Also, the total descent is off. The watch reported 2869 m (downhill descent) and 3823 m (Descent), but calculating the number of runs X the hill’s altitude, it is about 2150 m. Btw. what is the difference between “downhill descent” and “Descent”?

    Is this a problem that can be corrected? Am I doing something wrong, or is it the watch.

    Until now, i was using the Ambit 3 and never had this problem.

    Any advise?

    thanks

    S9 Baro
    SA on Android
    Ambit 3 Peak
    Ambit 2 Sapphire

    F E 2 Replies Last reply 26 Feb 2021, 08:26 Reply Quote 2
    • F Offline
      freeheeler @MdzOtt
      last edited by 26 Feb 2021, 08:26

      @mdzott
      yes, you did everything within your possibilities… you’ve reported it 👍
      I’ve observed this weird counting, too. But honestly, I don’t care about the number of runs, as every slope I ride has a different shape, steepness and descent. I only look at daily descents, nothing and really nothing else for downhill skiing… sorry, telemark skiing 😜

      living sideways

      M 1 Reply Last reply 4 Mar 2021, 05:28 Reply Quote 0
      • E Offline
        Egika Platinum Member @MdzOtt
        last edited by 26 Feb 2021, 08:58

        @mdzott can you share the activity?
        I noticed last season and the years before with SSU, that a run will be counted sometimes when you stop during you run (or walk a little in the flat before continuing the descent)
        It would be helpful to see your altitude profile.

        t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
        Race S All Black - Titanium Courtney
        Run Lime

        F M 3 Replies Last reply 26 Feb 2021, 09:40 Reply Quote 1
        • L Offline
          Lozen
          last edited by 26 Feb 2021, 09:23

          If you are in iOS, the sport mode is not “working” in terms of what it is possible to see in SA (there are some posts regarding this issue for iOS). The watch seems to record “correctly” the info at least based on what I was able to see in Movescount February last year. This winter I didn’t check (the slopes are still closed in my country)

          S9 Baro v. 2.14.16
          SA 2.4.0 (8992)
          iPhone12 Pro Max iOS 14.2

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • F Offline
            freeheeler @Egika
            last edited by 26 Feb 2021, 09:40

            @egika
            I don’t think that short stops count… if this would be the case I would have +1k runs… 😂

            short and slow uphills or flats, yes maybe.
            but for sure if you have slopes with multiple lift sectors in series. If you ride the lower sector it detects the lift and counts, then you go up the lower and second sector and ride it detects the second sector, too and you already have 3 runs.
            Maybe it’s more a sector counter that a number of descents counter?

            living sideways

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • M Offline
              MdzOtt @Egika
              last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 05:26

              @egika
              A silly question: how to share it?

              S9 Baro
              SA on Android
              Ambit 3 Peak
              Ambit 2 Sapphire

              M 1 Reply Last reply 12 Mar 2021, 22:03 Reply Quote 0
              • M Offline
                MdzOtt @freeheeler
                last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 05:28

                @freeheeler - the number of runs is just a number, agreed, who cares. But the Total Descent should be accurate, but it isn’t. Any ideas?

                S9 Baro
                SA on Android
                Ambit 3 Peak
                Ambit 2 Sapphire

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • M Offline
                  MdzOtt @Egika
                  last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 05:56

                  @egika this was a very simple day on a local hill - multiple runs on a single chair. It should be reasonably easy to figure out how many runs.
                  I noticed in SA that there were numerous tiny runs (a couple of metres), probably when moving through the line to the lift.
                  I would gladly share the file. Let me know what you would like to see (and how to upload it).

                  S9 Baro
                  SA on Android
                  Ambit 3 Peak
                  Ambit 2 Sapphire

                  B N 2 Replies Last reply 4 Mar 2021, 08:55 Reply Quote 0
                  • B Offline
                    Bulkan Moderator @MdzOtt
                    last edited by Bulkan 3 Apr 2021, 08:58 4 Mar 2021, 08:55

                    @MdzOtt I don’t sky, here there is no snow but @Brad_Olwin does although he is more into skimo. Maybe he knows.

                    Tu comunidad Suunto en Telegram: https://t.me/suuntocommunity (spanish)

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • N Offline
                      nseslija Bronze Member @MdzOtt
                      last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 09:18

                      @mdzott as far as I know, I am using s9 baro, when you start to descent the watch start the interval, and the interval is finished when you start to ascent.
                      If you have small descents and ascents the watch will record that as ski runs.
                      Alpine skiing sport mode syncing problem with iOS is another problem, still unsolved unfortunately.

                      Ambit 2S
                      Ambit 3 Peak
                      Suunto 9 baro
                      Suunto Vertical Ti Solar

                      F 1 Reply Last reply 4 Mar 2021, 12:30 Reply Quote 1
                      • F Offline
                        freeheeler @nseslija
                        last edited by freeheeler 3 Apr 2021, 12:32 4 Mar 2021, 12:30

                        @nseslija
                        I did a small test recently and could not see a reasonable pattern… I did one decent without any bigger climbs that S9B with its 3m threshold would recognize and it showed 3 runs.
                        The theory that a longer pause might not be right either as I did a lot of quite similar pauses to get the fire out of my legs

                        https://www.suunto.com/move/skiingone/603a4763d03bd02037ba863d

                        living sideways

                        M N 2 Replies Last reply 4 Mar 2021, 13:18 Reply Quote 0
                        • M Offline
                          Mff73 @freeheeler
                          last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 13:18

                          @freeheeler
                          do you see that in QS, there seems only to be 2 laps (descents) vs 3 in the SA ?
                          8f279934-732d-4b21-95b1-7c3514e3ca5c-image.png

                          Suunto Spartan Ultra (since 2016) FW: 2.8.24 (retired)
                          Suunto Vertical all black
                          Wife : S9PP
                          SA: Always the latest beta :)
                          Android 13, Galaxy S205G

                          F 1 Reply Last reply 4 Mar 2021, 14:29 Reply Quote 1
                          • F Offline
                            freeheeler @Mff73
                            last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 14:29

                            @mff73
                            and the sum is not the total duration

                            living sideways

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • N Offline
                              nseslija Bronze Member @freeheeler
                              last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 15:56

                              @freeheeler I only see one descent there… I must say that I didn’t experience such a behavior with the watch… Did you feel vibration when the watch started a new interval during your descent?
                              I can feel the vibration almost every time, and it is when I start to descent, and when the ascent starts on the chairlift.

                              Ambit 2S
                              Ambit 3 Peak
                              Suunto 9 baro
                              Suunto Vertical Ti Solar

                              F 1 Reply Last reply 4 Mar 2021, 17:05 Reply Quote 1
                              • F Offline
                                freeheeler @nseslija
                                last edited by 4 Mar 2021, 17:05

                                @nseslija
                                I rarely feel it. It’s only when I pay attention when I enter or leave the chairlift station. I never notice the unwanted descent count vibration

                                living sideways

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • M Offline
                                  MdzOtt @MdzOtt
                                  last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:03

                                  @mdzott here is the link to the activity: https://www.suunto.com/move/marekdziedzic/6037d336cdd3874e077c7966

                                  S9 Baro
                                  SA on Android
                                  Ambit 3 Peak
                                  Ambit 2 Sapphire

                                  M 1 Reply Last reply 12 Mar 2021, 22:06 Reply Quote 0
                                  • M Offline
                                    MdzOtt @MdzOtt
                                    last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:06

                                    @mdzott In the activity i just posted, the total descent is ~3800 m, whereas, when you count the runs, it should be around ~2500 m.

                                    S9 Baro
                                    SA on Android
                                    Ambit 3 Peak
                                    Ambit 2 Sapphire

                                    F 1 Reply Last reply 12 Mar 2021, 22:08 Reply Quote 0
                                    • F Offline
                                      freeheeler @MdzOtt
                                      last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:08

                                      @mdzott
                                      I see 2’868m descent… it’s about alright.
                                      but 62 runs… hmmm…

                                      living sideways

                                      M 1 Reply Last reply 12 Mar 2021, 22:17 Reply Quote 0
                                      • M Offline
                                        MdzOtt @freeheeler
                                        last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:17

                                        @freeheeler when i looked at the SA, there were multiple runs of 2 m, 3 m etc. It seems that it counted every single step i took waiting in line to the chair.

                                        S9 Baro
                                        SA on Android
                                        Ambit 3 Peak
                                        Ambit 2 Sapphire

                                        F 1 Reply Last reply 12 Mar 2021, 22:18 Reply Quote 1
                                        • F Offline
                                          freeheeler @MdzOtt
                                          last edited by 12 Mar 2021, 22:18

                                          @mdzott
                                          possible, not good and not logic with the threshold… but only the dev teams knows 🙄

                                          living sideways

                                          M 1 Reply Last reply 12 Mar 2021, 22:21 Reply Quote 0
                                          • First post
                                            Last post

                                          Suunto Terms | Privacy Policy

                                            This community forum collects and processes your personal information.
                                            consent.not_received