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    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler @surfboomerang
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      @surfboomerang
      250m ascent is a lot for a windsurf! …unless you do a lot of high airs 😉
      I once went surfboard paddling here in the lake and came to something like 17’000m ascent caused by the frequent submerging into the high density water.

      Isn’t it still possible to setup these things for A3PS in movescount?
      How is it handled if you set it up for baro but now you want to have it changed to either automatic or alti?
      Does a default setup overwrite MC A3PS settings from SA once you sync?

      living sideways

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      • surfboomerangS Offline
        surfboomerang @freeheeler
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        @freeheeler I have no idea if it’s still possible. I don’t own the A3P anymore.
        When I bought the S9B, I used it with movescount the first two activities. After that I switched to SA.

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        • zzmike76Z Offline
          zzmike76 @freeheeler
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          @freeheeler no I never adjusted the altitude manually. I suspect the auto alti-baro setting is having issues in getting the right values, as the altitude is rapidl going well below the real one. Will try on weekend with altitude only profile

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          • zzmike76Z Offline
            zzmike76 @freeheeler
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            @freeheeler yes it is still possible to change the values in movescount

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            • zzmike76Z Offline
              zzmike76
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              so today I went skitouring, I set both profiles (watch and skitouring activity) to altitude, I went to the place (I started from Realp -1538 meters).and then i manually set the reference altitude .Still I see start and end altitude completely wrong. ,respectively 1474 and 1388 ! I suspect I am doing something wrong?

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                freeheeler @zzmike76
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                @zzmike76
                nice, what was your summit?
                maybe, what you could have done wrong: setting the altitude manually. It switches off FusedAlti and if there is weather change, hence different pressures, then FusedAlti can’t do its magic.
                But the weather is pretty stable between the north and Tessin at the moment afaik… can you share the alti graph?

                living sideways

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                • zzmike76Z Offline
                  zzmike76 @freeheeler
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                  @freeheeler easy going, went to Tälligrat 🙂

                  Weather was super stable, my understanding of setting manually the altitude is that it should avoid the FusedAlti discrepancies?

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                    freeheeler @zzmike76
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                    @zzmike76
                    nice summit! I recall it was a lot of “cross country ski style” to get into the valley and to the actual ascent, but very nice slopes 👍

                    the graph looks alright. The point is with the FusedAlti, and I did not believe this until around 2 years ago, you want this to work. Because it is much more precise than setting a manual altitude and the watch just calculates the difference.
                    Next time, leave your watch in alti mode (I never used anything else), when you start the activity do it without manually adjustment of alti and just wait for the satellites to lock, then start. Even if the watch shows in Realp 2’000m, it will be corrected throughout the activity. Normally within 15 minutes, and of course on the fly if the weather is shifting 👍

                    living sideways

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                    • zzmike76Z Offline
                      zzmike76 @freeheeler
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                      @freeheeler thanks for the hint, will try in the weekend (next skitour is planned :)) !

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                        zzmike76 @zzmike76
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                        @zzmike76 i went skitouring today, and noticed the following: while driving the altitude was correct (again in Realp!) at 1530, as soon as I exited the car it started going down…after 30 minutes I started the activity, but noticed that it was mentioning 1340. Once reaching the peak, it was showing the right altitude. As in the other recording, this would mean 200 meters more in ascent. Unfortunately I cannot share the graph as the watch went in pause for a while, but next weekend will try again

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                          freeheeler @zzmike76
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                          @zzmike76
                          why did the watch pause itself?
                          Do you have any graph or no graph at all? it would be good to see the graph and route you made today.
                          alti drop could also be related to temperature drop but should be backward corrected with fused alti.
                          my friend has my “old” A3PS and he had no issues this weekend whatsoever (Obergoms).

                          living sideways

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                          • zzmike76Z Offline
                            zzmike76 @freeheeler
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                            @freeheeler i simply forgot to lock the watch (doh!) and probably pressed inadvertently the pause , am attaching anyway the graphSchermata 2021-03-07 alle 22.23.56.png

                            PS : I suspect the temperature at this point

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                              freeheeler @zzmike76
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                              @zzmike76
                              hmm, ok… this doesn’t look like fused alti was able to do its job 🙄
                              do you have a time and distance scale for this altigraph? I assume the descent was recorded properly, but during the long horizontal the watch was paused. I’m not sure if pausing does affect fused alti.
                              What if you do a simple and short (20min) activity around your house even with minor ascents. It would be helpful to see how the watch reacts on the alti change etc 👍

                              living sideways

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                                Gábor Tóth Bronze Member @freeheeler
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                                @freeheeler

                                Hi Guys, unfortunately I joined the club as well. The watch worked well until the weekend kicked in, where I noticed several weird stuff.
                                I have been cycling in the city, and the altitude profile went totally out of the box, and calculated 2939m ascent in 10km, where the altitude profile was from 0 to 3009.

                                1.jpg, 2.jpg.

                                I thought the the barometer holes were clogged, it happend to me before. I cleared it. Checked the settings, it was on barometric altitude only. After that I turned on fused alti and went for a run and did some hill repetitions to test the altitude measuring. The results: totally flat altitude with -43C celsius 3.jpg
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                                Went home. Restarted the watch, cleaned the holes more. Synchronized the GPS settings, activated the Fused Alti. The next day I went for a run to a well known track (altitude +423m/-423m, with the highest point around 350m ), with the following results:

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                                At the first activity I thought the suunto guys want to boost up a little bit my not so famous stats for the vertical week, but it seems like it not the case. Do You have any other tips/ tricks how should i proceed? Thanks in advance.

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                                  freeheeler @Gábor Tóth
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                                  @gábor-tóth
                                  😵

                                  living sideways

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                                    Mff73 @Gábor Tóth
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                                    @gábor-tóth
                                    Temperature = -49°C ?
                                    Looks like your baro sensor is faulty.
                                    Eventually soft reset, check the same information directly on the watch to confirm, but …

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                                    • zzmike76Z Offline
                                      zzmike76 @freeheeler
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                                      @freeheeler that applies for other tours as well, I constantly get +200 meters, which are always added at the beginning when moving to cozy warm car environment to the ugly cold winter time outside 🙂
                                      when in the car the altitude is fine, it drops very quickly when going outside. I would expect it to get fixed in 30 minutes, but that does not work

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                                        freeheeler @zzmike76
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                                        @zzmike76
                                        maybe you can try to wait before you start the activity and let the watch get settled with the temperature while you put on shoes and the skins on the skis?
                                        but I am close to repeat what @Mff73 mentioned to @gábor-tóth just before 🤔

                                        living sideways

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                                          Mff73 @zzmike76
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                                          @zzmike76 said in Ambit3 Peak elevation gain:

                                          @freeheeler that applies for other tours as well, I constantly get +200 meters, which are always added at the beginning when moving to cozy warm car environment to the ugly cold winter time outside 🙂
                                          when in the car the altitude is fine, it drops very quickly when going outside. I would expect it to get fixed in 30 minutes, but that does not work

                                          it looks REALLY like a baro sensor HS 😞 Search for “fridge” test , and try it, if altitude change from inside to outside …

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                                            Gábor Tóth Bronze Member @Mff73
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                                            @mff73 said in Ambit3 Peak elevation gain:

                                            ALLY like a baro sensor HS Search for “fridge” test , and try it, if altitude change from inside to outside …

                                            Hi! thanks for the responses. I will give it a try, to use the automatic or the altimeter way of altitude measurement not just the barometric. if it continue to fail, i will search for an authorized service… : /

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