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    • Jamie BGJ Offline
      Jamie BG Bronze Member @Kiriakos Chaldezos
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      @kiriakos-chaldezos all good but can only shows backstroke or freestyle, doesn’t seem to recognise breaststroke.

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        Egika Platinum Member @Jamie BG
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        @jamie-bg said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:

        @kiriakos-chaldezos all good but can only shows backstroke or freestyle, doesn’t seem to recognise breaststroke.

        It does all three of those.
        See below.
        Don’t know if it has butterfly though…
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          Nigel Taylor 0 Bronze Member @Egika
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          @egika said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:

          @Brad_Olwin said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:

          If Suunto could leverage the smartsensor to sync less often and not reduce battery life anymore than OHR I’d be for it.

          And this is something with potential probably!!
          The Suunto HR sensor is capable of data storage that will be synced after the activity, when no live data transfer is possible (eg. during swimming).
          How about leaving the high power processor in sleep state and only wake it up every 10s or so for a HR data sync.
          Possibly the time could be user selectable - some might only want it for analysis after the training. Then only sync HR once when training is stopped. Others might be fine with data every minute etc.

          I love this idea that could be even more power saving than wrist heart rate 🙂

          I like where this could go.

          I’ve been running with Suunto App, doing offline sync of my Stryd and then combining the data in GoldenCheetah.

          Would be more than happy to see a live Power stat updated every 10 or 30 (or 60 even!) seconds whilst running, causing little extra battery drain on the watch, knowing I’ve got the full data to pull in post-workout.

          Similar I guess to HR bands…display the data polled every minute on watch and you’ll get a reasonable idea of how you’re performing whilst mid-activity…and yet you’ve got the per-second data to pull in and sync after the fact for that deep dive analysis.

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            Jamie BG Bronze Member @Egika
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            @egika maybe they have fixed it. Hopefully at some point I will be allowed back in a pool and can check if it got fixed.

            When swimming breaststroke do you use wide pull or tight tucked in pull?

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              Egika Platinum Member @Jamie BG
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              @jamie-bg erm… I use the one stroke that feels ok for me… Sorry, no technique expert here.

              But you might be able to try it out in your room as well just simulating the different strokes.
              Just make sure to simulate the turn at the wall as well 🙂

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              • JANTIKAINENJ Offline
                JANTIKAINEN Bronze Member @pilleus
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                @pilleus Thanks for doing this test. It clearly shows that allowing sensor support in Suunto app would not be a problem. Anyway those who don’t want to use an external sensor, don’t have to, but there are bunch of us who would. Hopefully Suunto is considering this as it would really be a game changer.

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                  Aleksander H Bronze Member @JANTIKAINEN
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                  @jantikainen I’d like this to, but I imagine there are probably other priorities before they consider adding support for this. Auto pause for instance is something I suspect we’ll see at some point this year.

                  I’d love to use my S7 with stryd as I’m currently following a 10k power based training plan, but that’s probably a pretty niche requirement. I doubt most Wear OS users even know that running power is a thing. It would be interesting to know what kind of user the average S7 buyer is. I imagine the people who spend time on this forum probably aren’t very representative.

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                    Jamie BG Bronze Member @Aleksander H
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                    @aleksander-h based on the original target market i.e. to compete with AW, it doesn’t really make sense to add sensor support, as that really isn’t the target market.
                    The latest update with sleep tracking - absolutely target market.

                    The rest of the adds: routes, body clock, ext sensor support - are really all targeted at the fitness crowd, not the full smartwatch crowd.
                    And I believe that is the right that they should target both crowds, as currently this is the closest watch that comes to covering both targets. So anything they can add on both sides really is a benefit.

                    I do think that routes is more than adequate for what is already there - pretty much class leading. Body clock - great idea, massive boost comparison against fitness, but got to think external sensors also need to be there - irrespective of battery consumption. Find it hard to think they would require more juice than a connection to a smartwatch…and would be happy to disconnect from smartwatch to enable external sensor support if required.

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                      olymay Gold Members @Jamie BG
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                      @jamie-bg

                      I would argue that the Suunto 7 isn’t (and certainly shouldn’t) be aiming to compete in the Apple Watch and generic fitness smartwatch category. It is simply far too expensive and capable for that (£429 rrp in the UK)

                      I know many people with smartwatches. All iPhone users have an Apple Watch. Most Android users have a Fossil and some a TicWatch Pro.

                      Suunto simply isn’t well known enough in the regular smartwatch circles. And when my friends see the price of mine they think I was mad to pay that for a watch that does ‘essentially the same as theirs’. When I show them the extra fitness smarts they are impressed, but say they don’t need anything that fancy, but if they did they would buy a Garmin.

                      I think I am square in the Suunto 7 target user group. Someone who wants a proper fitness device but also wants a proper smartwatch and does not want to be switching devices.

                      There is also the physical size of the S7. My gf was really impressed with my S7 and was considering it end of last year as her FitBit versa was dying. She also wants a proper fitness device and a proper smartwatch. However, when she tried on my S7 she couldn’t stop laughing! It was comically big on her wrist. (she has ended up with a Garmin Venu as it was the best fit for her requirements).

                      There was a comment a while back on the forum about ‘Soccer Mums’ being the target for the Suunto 7.
                      A ‘Soccer Mum’ is not going to spend over £400 on a watch that is too big for her and looks distinctly masculine. She will buy a Venu, or a Fossil, or an Apple Watch (this is my opinion and also that of a few friends, one of which is a ‘soccer mum’).

                      Suunto have the opportunity here to make the S7 an absolutely killer device! It it’s 80-90% there right now with only a few key features missing (sensor support, auto pause, etc).
                      I doubt it will eat into the S9 market, as that user group needs the longer battery life which the S7 will never compete with.

                      Please Suunto, unleash the full potential of the Suunto 7 🙂

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                      • Luca BellardoL Offline
                        Luca Bellardo @olymay
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                        @olymay said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:

                        @jamie-bg

                        I would argue that the Suunto 7 isn’t (and certainly shouldn’t) be aiming to compete in the Apple Watch and generic fitness smartwatch category. It is simply far too expensive and capable for that (£429 rrp in the UK)

                        I know many people with smartwatches. All iPhone users have an Apple Watch. Most Android users have a Fossil and some a TicWatch Pro.

                        Suunto simply isn’t well known enough in the regular smartwatch circles. And when my friends see the price of mine they think I was mad to pay that for a watch that does ‘essentially the same as theirs’. When I show them the extra fitness smarts they are impressed, but say they don’t need anything that fancy, but if they did they would buy a Garmin.

                        I think I am square in the Suunto 7 target user group. Someone who wants a proper fitness device but also wants a proper smartwatch and does not want to be switching devices.

                        There is also the physical size of the S7. My gf was really impressed with my S7 and was considering it end of last year as her FitBit versa was dying. She also wants a proper fitness device and a proper smartwatch. However, when she tried on my S7 she couldn’t stop laughing! It was comically big on her wrist. (she has ended up with a Garmin Venu as it was the best fit for her requirements).

                        There was a comment a while back on the forum about ‘Soccer Mums’ being the target for the Suunto 7.
                        A ‘Soccer Mum’ is not going to spend over £400 on a watch that is too big for her and looks distinctly masculine. She will buy a Venu, or a Fossil, or an Apple Watch (this is my opinion and also that of a few friends, one of which is a ‘soccer mum’).

                        Suunto have the opportunity here to make the S7 an absolutely killer device! It it’s 80-90% there right now with only a few key features missing (sensor support, auto pause, etc).
                        I doubt it will eat into the S9 market, as that user group needs the longer battery life which the S7 will never compete with.

                        Please Suunto, unleash the full potential of the Suunto 7 🙂

                        I agree in everything, better something more rather than something less

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                        • JANTIKAINENJ Offline
                          JANTIKAINEN Bronze Member @Aleksander H
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                          @aleksander-h you might be right about Suunto’s priorities.
                          Still I think that there are many others, not in this forum, who would like to have wear os and track their cycling, winter and team sport activities which is not optimal or possible with the lack of sensor support using Suunto app.
                          My opinion is that this should be their next priority 1.
                          But then again, this is just my assumption and opinion. So far Suunto has made very good updates and the next one coming made me come back to S7.

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                            A Former User @JANTIKAINEN
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                            Guess this are good news for the Suunto 7 users
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                              Egika Platinum Member @Guest
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                              @andré-faria and that means in English?
                              Who is this person?

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                                JANTIKAINEN Bronze Member @Egika
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                                @egika Romain Berger is a sales area manager for Amer Sports and this is his reply to a question about split function.

                                “Hello Antoine. This feature is coming to Suunto 7 soon, as is the possibility of pairing a heart rate sensor. The upcoming update on S7 is mainly about everyday well-being features including a really relevant sleep tracking algorithm. Why ? As the S7 is primarily thought of as a hybrid that meets the needs of users seeking a compromise between Smartwatch and Sportwatch, the focus for this spring update has been on well-being.”

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                                  Aleksander H Bronze Member
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                                  And here I was no more than a few days ago saying I didn’t think we would see this on the current model 🤣.

                                  S7 is turning into an excellent watch! I certainly won’t hesitate recommending it.

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                                    Brad_Olwin Moderator @olymay
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                                    @olymay said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:

                                    @jamie-bg

                                    All iPhone users have an Apple Watch.

                                    I’m an iPhone user and I do not have an Apple Watch

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                                      olymay Gold Members @Brad_Olwin
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                                      @brad_olwin said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:

                                      @olymay said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:

                                      @jamie-bg

                                      All iPhone users have an Apple Watch.

                                      I’m an iPhone user and I do not have an Apple Watch

                                      Fair point, my apologies.

                                      I meant that all iPhone users I know use an Apple Watch (or a Garmin!)

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                                        Aleksander H Bronze Member
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                                        Is it just me, or is the comment about sensor support coming to the S7 no longer there?

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                                          JANTIKAINEN Bronze Member @Aleksander H
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                                          @aleksander-h Oh you’re right, I can’t find it either anymore.

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                                            Aleksander H Bronze Member @JANTIKAINEN
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                                            @jantikainen let’s hope it’s a case of someone announcing something to early rather than that person being wrong.

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