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Turn by Turn Navigation in opposite way does not work properly

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    AndreasKauth
    last edited by 11 Apr 2021, 18:27

    Servus S9 Users, and i supose, this is the same at other watches…

    in the search, i found nothing to this issue…

    Today, i took a little hike, planned with komoot. We started in the opposite direction as planned in Komoot like often in the past - the watch had no problems with this. Now with turn-by-turn-navigation, the commands are in the wrong way. When i had to turn right, the watch says left - went two times the wrong way till i realized, that the commands are wrong…

    The watch had during the hike one black-screen-restart (there are now two hikes in one sunday 💪 ), i don´t know, if it has to do with the “wrong-way-issue”…

    Can this be fixed, or have i to go, like i planned in Komoot in future?

    Thanks a lot

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      isazi Moderator @AndreasKauth
      last edited by isazi 4 Nov 2021, 19:07 11 Apr 2021, 18:45

      @andreaskauth the issue of the watch possibly having issues following a route in reverse is known already.

      For the turn by turn, unfortunately you need to plan in Komoot the direction you want to use the route, there is no way for Komoot to add waypoints for both directions.

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        A Former User @AndreasKauth
        last edited by A Former User 4 Dec 2021, 19:03 11 Apr 2021, 19:03

        @andreaskauth it’s not TbT, it’s labeled waypoints. Until Suunto produces true TbT, which would probably require onboard maps, you’ll have to either go straight on or remember to reverse directions if you’re going backwards.

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          jthomi @AndreasKauth
          last edited by 11 Apr 2021, 19:04

          @andreaskauth good find!

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            Rob33 Bronze Member @jthomi
            last edited by 12 Apr 2021, 17:13

            @jthomi we believe we are progressing and finally not enough time …

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              Oktan @Guest
              last edited by 12 Apr 2021, 19:24

              @zrumlow or he can create 2 routes in komoot, one for each direction, just in case

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                martin Bronze Member
                last edited by 13 Apr 2021, 08:04

                I think turn by turn instructions are generated in Komoot and sent to the watch, thus if you reverse the route in the watch, you just get the turn by turn instructions from last to first, instead of having them really reversed.
                You’ll have to reverse the route in the Komoot app (Choose your tour, click «plan similar», then click on the three dots icon which is on the right of waypoints green bar on the top, and choose the reverse option). Save that new tour and sync again with the watch.

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                  jthomi
                  last edited by 13 Apr 2021, 08:21

                  During planning a Route with komoot I found out that reversing a planned route can change positons of some waypoints, you should look into the route before saving.

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                    sartoric Moderator @martin
                    last edited by 13 Apr 2021, 08:22

                    @martin
                    Of course.
                    TbT is just a route with named waypoints … and wps are named based on how you draw the route.

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                      AndreasKauth @martin
                      last edited by AndreasKauth 13 Apr 2021, 11:16

                      I probably know the most tricks in Komoot, i´m working with it for years. And it ist very nice, that i can get the information about the turns on each waypoint without having the app running on smartphone.

                      Actually, this is not what i expected in the 21. century, so i was really suprised about the issue.
                      In future, i will go the “right way” in my routes.

                      Thanks for your reply!

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                        A Former User @Oktan
                        last edited by 13 Apr 2021, 17:40

                        @oktan ya that works as long as you remember to do that and have a cellular signal when you roll up to the trailhead. Doesn’t do you much good on top of a mountain though.

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                          A Former User @Guest
                          last edited by 13 Apr 2021, 17:55

                          @zrumlow one may not go unprepared to top of a mountain which he/she doesn’t know 😉

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                            DMytro @Guest
                            last edited by 13 Apr 2021, 17:55

                            @zrumlow you can create both routes in advanced. It may be not as elegant, but if TbT is important - why not?

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                              A Former User @DMytro
                              last edited by 13 Apr 2021, 19:34

                              @дима-мельниченко I mean, I just flip them in my head if I’m going backwards

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                                DMytro @Guest
                                last edited by 13 Apr 2021, 20:20

                                @zrumlow that’s a possibility too 🙂

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