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    Serious BUG in calories, PTE, recovery

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    • Tomas5T Offline
      Tomas5 @Aleksander H
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      @aleksander-h I came to stop it after some time because I saw that HR light was all the time on. So just to save battery I decited to stop because I knew it can take more than hour before I return to finish excercise. I don’t know if it was recording some values or not while on table, but definitely it was glowing all the time.

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      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
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        There is also metabolic rate included that is included in pauses. (Total time).

        I am asking why PTE etc are cal;culated during pauses

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          Tomas5 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos 607d0accd93e6a2433986ad6.fit

          Here is fit file if this can help. Exported directly from suunto app.

          I did exactly this:

          Started excercise (indoor light excercise with WHR).
          Paused excercise after 7 minutes and took watch off my wrist.
          After some time, don’t know exact time but 10-40minuts I stoped already paused excercise.

          Funny part that only from 7 minutes of light excercise I shoud rest 7 hours and from same excercise later but longer 14 minutes I should rest 0 hours. Something definitely wrong here.

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          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Tomas5
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            @tomas5 yeah pauses are included in the HR calculation. In a way this is normal because HR does get recorded during a pause, but not sure if that is expected.

            Also the FIT file has clipped the data outside pauses for partners

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            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Tomas5
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              @tomas5 I got an answer. This is by design. CAlories doe get accounted during a pause if WHR is used as the calories come from the HR

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                Aleksander H Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                @dimitrios-kanellopoulos makes sense really. It’s not like our body stops because we clicked pause.

                Let’s say you go running in the mountains for 6 hours, and you had a 30 min break in the middle. Your body would still probably be working pretty hard during that rest, and that should probably be taken into account.

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                • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                  Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Aleksander H
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                  @aleksander-h the key here is HR based I suppose. I am not sure if I am 100% agreeing with this but also sounds logical

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                    Aleksander H Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                    @dimitrios-kanellopoulos said in Serious BUG in calories, PTE, recovery:

                    I am not sure if I am 100% agreeing with this but also sounds logical

                    Personally I think the problem here is there isn’t a clear cut right and wrong. It’s more a subjective opinion. In my mind it makes sense, but I totally get why others would disagree.

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                    • Tomas5T Offline
                      Tomas5 @Aleksander H
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                      @aleksander-h Yes it makes perfect sense while some activity, but I was doing really low power stretching like excercises. With low average HR, low maximum HR and low effort 😄 while another days when I do this excercise uninterupted I burn around 150 - 200 kcal so it was really too much off when I saw 325 only from 7 minutes of ligtest part of excercise.

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                        Mff73 @Tomas5
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                        @tomas5
                        but maybe WHR measurements while watch not worn are not so relieable 🙂 thus calories neither 🙂 (like some users were able to measure bananas HR).
                        So it is really a use case … specific.

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                          Tomas5 @Mff73
                          last edited by Tomas5

                          @mff73 yes, I expected zero reading when off wrist.

                          Edited: now it is confirmed that HR made some high readings when off wrist and thats reason for high calories and PTE.

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