Sunnto 7 Sensor Support
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@olymay said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:
All iPhone users have an Apple Watch.
I’m an iPhone user and I do not have an Apple Watch
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@brad_olwin said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:
@olymay said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:
All iPhone users have an Apple Watch.
I’m an iPhone user and I do not have an Apple Watch
Fair point, my apologies.
I meant that all iPhone users I know use an Apple Watch (or a Garmin!)
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Is it just me, or is the comment about sensor support coming to the S7 no longer there?
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@aleksander-h Oh you’re right, I can’t find it either anymore.
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@jantikainen let’s hope it’s a case of someone announcing something to early rather than that person being wrong.
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@aleksander-h
I believe it is very doable - the issue is around battery life and the concerns that would bring.
I guess they can’t understand that most people who want this issue are prepared to deal with the battery consumptions issues that it might bring. -
@jamie-bg im actually using sporty go app with ble cadence/speed sensor and the battery drain seem to me non so heavier than normal bike activity with suunto app…i mean, give me the opportunity to use them (maybe just with an indication about possible battery drain) and then I’ll decide if use it or not…that’s my opinion
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@jamie-bg in talking about this in the forum previously I believe there may actually be a hardware limitation in regards to sensor support within the Suunto fitness app on the watch. Being the coprocessor does most of the heavy lifting when using the built in sunnto app it may be the limiting factor in terms of connecting a Bluetooth sensor. I could be wrong however that’s how it was put to me by one of the moderators on this forum. I agree with you though in that adding that features would make the Suunto 7 the best smart watch/training watch on the market.
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@brotzfrog10 - if can connect using sportygo, ghostracer, and GFit, it means it is feasible on the Suunto app. Note that I said I believe the concerns are in regards to battery life, but if you got a warning prior to using it stating this would be heavy on battery life, users then shouldn’t complain about the additional feature’s battery cost, as you know what its going to cost you to use it.
I sincerely do believe that most people complain due to the unexpected. Sure there are always some very unreasonable people.who complain no matter what, but I think that most of us only complain when its unexpected. I.e. if normally get 8%/hr, then add in external HR and its suddenly 20%/hr - yes you going to complain. But if there is a switch or something that you have to flick to allow this connectivity, and the warning says that using this feature causes heavy battery drain - how many of us are really going to complain (other than those who are unreasonable).
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@jamie-bg there could even be another setting, that would make use of the Suunto Smart belt’s caching capability.
So the watch would pull HR not in real time, but every 20secs or so and inbetween switch to low power coprocessor… If one does not need instant heart rate but more the tracking and after training analysis it could even sync only once training is finished. Then with a positive effect on battery life compared to optical
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@egika only problem with this would be active HR metering.
This is very important to me and have found it super useful for my fitness improvement.
I am fairly limited in what and where I can go for the moment to improve fitness, so am unfortunately having to rely on a couple of the same courses, however with the zone metering I can tell when I am coasting and can use that to push harder, or pull back when I am pushing too hard to prevent injuries (body is really beaten up so I can injure myself fairly easily).And while I agree your idea certainly has merit and would be a good start/option, I think most would agree they would prefer to see active feedback as they perform.
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@jamie-bg said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:
… but if you got a warning prior to using it stating this would be heavy on battery life
They already offer always on map display as an option along with a battery warning. So they’ve already done something similar.
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Before Google killed of Google Play Music, I used to use it on the S7 to stream music to my Bluetooth headphones without having to take my phone with me.
This resulted in the S7 not switching to the coprocessor and therefore battery life taking a hit.Essentially I am saying there is nothing hardware limiting the use of an external Bluetooth device whilst the Suunto App is running.
Yes, battery life is impacted, but as others have mentioned a warning message would be enough inform users.Suunto 7 Graphite Copper
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@jamie-bg of course there should be current live HR display. That is why I wrote “another setting” that could be used by people who don’t need live HR data.
When I am riding my mountain bike, I am using the map display.
the watch logging distance, speed, HR etc does not matter. Still it could use the belt to sync data to the watch after the workout for the record. -
@olymay said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:
Before Google killed of Google Play Music, I used to use it on the S7 to stream music to my Bluetooth headphones without having to take my phone with me.
This resulted in the S7 not switching to the coprocessor and therefore battery life taking a hit.Off topic, but how reliable was your headphone connection? I tried a podcast this week and the connection with my 65t was terrible. I had to move the watch to my right wrist to make it work.
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@aleksander-h My AirPods Pro work fairly well.
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@brad_olwin headphones problem then I guess. I know the 65t have their ble antenne in the right ear, so I guess that’s the issue. Oh well, I’ll just use it on my right wrist until it’s time to replace them. Thanks for feedback.
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@jamie-bg Just to further clarify my point, from what I gathered from one of the moderates, Suunto made it so their own training app ran through the coprocessor on the watch in order to stretch battery life while training especially gps routes. Sportygo and other apps aren’t engineered in that same manner and run on the main processor of the watch which there for may allow them more options when it comes to connecting to sensors.
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@aleksander-h said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:
Off topic, but how reliable was your headphone connection? I tried a podcast this week and the connection with my 65t was terrible. I had to move the watch to my right wrist to make it work.
I use Aftershox Aeropex and they work really well and I could even be in the next room and still maintain a stable connection.
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@jamie-bg this is a reply I got from a moderator back in January about the coprocessor and a Bluetooth heart rate monitor, within this very topic of the forum.
MODERATOR 15 Jan 2021, 10:05
@brotzfrog10 said in Sunnto 7 Sensor Support:
Maybe the coprocessor sunnto is running the training app off of can’t do those kind of connections?
Moderator:
It has been written countless times that IT CANNOT
