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    No Vo2max since update 2.14.12

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    • Soylent YellowS Offline
      Soylent Yellow Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
      last edited by

      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I’ve got the same problem here with my 9 Baro. Watch hard reset itself during the firmware upgrade, and since the hardly a Vo2max reading.

      I ran a HM marathon yesterday, so that’s all Zone 3/4/5 on a flat course with open view of sky and a Polar H10 HR Monitor with a new strap and fresh battery, and still zilch. No Vo2max reading at all. I am really starting to believe that 2.14.12 changed something on the data delivery to FirstBeat’s ‘Black Box’, either because the GPS signal is noisier than before, or because the HR data gets massaged or re-interpreted somewhere.

      Have a look at the images below. It is quite clear when the 2.14.12 upgrade took place!

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      • isaziI Offline
        isazi Moderator @Soylent Yellow
        last edited by

        @soylent-yellow next firmware will fix some issues with VO2max.

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        • T Offline
          Tobi74
          last edited by

          update 2.14.16 is online. I have already updated. let see if it works now 😉

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          • isaziI Offline
            isazi Moderator @Tobi74
            last edited by

            @tobi74 I think this will be fixed in the next update, but I may be wrong.

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            • EzioAuditoreE Offline
              EzioAuditore Gold Members @isazi
              last edited by

              @isazi You are right, still no Vo2. Out of 6 runs only my first 2 had vo2 (I got notif that the HR is not ideal on those runs for some reason 🙂 ) all the rest runs no vo2.

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              • isaziI Offline
                isazi Moderator @EzioAuditore
                last edited by

                @hristijan-petreski wait just a little bit more 😉

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                • isaziI Offline
                  isazi Moderator
                  last edited by

                  This should be fixed in 2.16.26 (it has been for me for a while at least).

                  If any of you still has problems, please let me know.

                  Watch: Suunto Vertical Ti

                  Blog: isazi's home

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                  • EzioAuditoreE Offline
                    EzioAuditore Gold Members @isazi
                    last edited by

                    @isazi Thank m8. I found a pattern when using some suunto+ functions to affect the vo2. E.q.: When strava relative effort I always had vo2 when TP I had the bug. I will try it and will give you a feedback.

                    Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @EzioAuditore
                      last edited by

                      @hristijan-petreski that is interesting. Please keep me posted

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                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                        last edited by

                        @argo320 lets continue here

                        • What activity do you use ?
                        • What S+ do you use
                        • What belt / OHR do you use
                        • Does the vo2max not get reported on the summary of the sport (after finishing the activity) ?

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                        • EzioAuditoreE Offline
                          EzioAuditore Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                          last edited by

                          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos In my case I had:

                          • running (the basic/default and custom created)
                            – without belt
                            – belt too (HRM Pro)
                            Always when choosing suunto+ with TP my vo2max was absent (in the watch after the activity was finished but also when visiting the logbook). I used also Climb/Hill and the Strava relative effort and the Vo2 was present. Will hill run tomorrow so I will be using Climb again, but on Saturday I will have long run and will try the TP data. Will report further if all is ok after this FW. Cheers.

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                          • Argonaut330A Offline
                            Argonaut330 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                            last edited by Argonaut330

                            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos ok and thanks for your time, so:

                            • I mainly and only use RUNNING

                            • Usually i use NO S+ at all, if i go on unknown trail sometimes i use SAFE or if doing some treshold i use TrainingPeaks Running Pace (but very seldom)

                            • No belt, just wrist

                            • It doesnt get reported on the watch summary at the end and on the app VO2 tab

                            As said, this pattern is quite randomized, sometimes i get the VO2 either with or without the S+ functions.
                            Today, after the update, i went for this run to test it and i got no VO2, using Weather S+.

                            Let me know if anything else is needed 😉

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                            Suunto 9 Baro

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                            • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                              Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                              last edited by

                              Lets nail this one. Please report again with the findings after the update etc

                              NOTE: For OHR if the quality is bad it can not appear , but that is a different case

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                              • EgikaE Offline
                                Egika Platinum Member
                                last edited by Egika

                                @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos so now I do get a strange effect with the firmware of today:
                                I start a running activity as a test indoors, let it record for 30sec and stop it wothout actually moving (no GPS, HR 60bpm).
                                I get a VO2max registered of 53.1 in the summary of this activity and this value is also updated in the VO2 in the main screens.
                                I think this should not happen?!

                                t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                • Argonaut330A Offline
                                  Argonaut330 @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                  last edited by

                                  @dimitrios-kanellopoulos ok i will use for a week or so, and taking note of behaviour re VO2 recording, then will report again on this thread and take it from there. In the meantime let me know whether i need to send the logs today, grazie.

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                                  Suunto 9 Baro

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                                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Egika
                                    last edited by

                                    @egika for such a small run it should show some previous calculated value. Vo2max depends on previous runs.

                                    Also on short activities it might increase due to the little hr raise

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                                    • EgikaE Offline
                                      Egika Platinum Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                      last edited by

                                      @dimitrios-kanellopoulos thanks for the explanation
                                      yes, it just increased 🙂

                                      t6, S6, Elementum Terra, Ambit 3 Sapphire, Spartan Ultra Copper, Traverse Alpha, S7 Graphite LE, S9B Ambassador, S9P Granite Blue Titanium, S9PP Titanium Sand, Vertical All Black, Race Titanium Charcoal,
                                      Race S All Black - TI Canary - Titanium Courtney

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                                      • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                        Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager
                                        last edited by

                                        So do you guys train often?
                                        Do you get a vo2max value , and then on the next run the value is completely missing from the summary (without resetting the watch etc)

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                                        • EzioAuditoreE Offline
                                          EzioAuditore Gold Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
                                          last edited by

                                          @dimitrios-kanellopoulos I run at least 3-4 times a week and do aerobics 2-3 times and then some bike (commuting).
                                          But lately even without the bug fix (previous FW) I always had Vo2 because I was always setting suunto+ to Strava relative effort (I thought this is the reason I always have vo2).

                                          Suunto watches: Ocean (Sand), Race (Titanium Charcoal), Vertical (Titanium Solar Sand), 9 Baro (Ambassador Edition), Spartan Ultra (Copper Edition), Ambit 2, S6
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                                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @EzioAuditore
                                            last edited by

                                            @hristijan-petreski yes that’s how it should work. I don’t see an issue here right ?

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