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    • DMytroD Offline
      DMytro @Djordje S
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      @djordje-s I’m not sure if multisport activities are contributing to VO2max. You can check this by performing an activity, then looking for it in the VO2max tab in SA.
      I just want to say that it’s my personal experience. When I go hiking my vo2 plummets as only horizontal speed is being considered by the algorithm. When I go walking - I’m not sure: maybe the algo considers my HR for the speed to be too high, or maybe HR is just not high enough to provide a reasonable dataset for extrapolation.
      I heard from people on the forum that both walking and running results in reasonable VO2max values.

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        Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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        @dmytro Also one observation.My VO2max was also low before hard reset.After that the value was high and now it decresing after every exercise 🙂

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          DMytro @Djordje S
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          @djordje-s well, it makes sense. If algo before the hard reset considered your vo2 to be low, after you’ve reset the values, it needed time to converge to the similar value.

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            DMytro @Djordje S
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            @djordje-s or do you mean that v02 is now even lower?

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              Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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              @dmytro Its not lower as it was before hard reset but if it continue like this,it will reach old value 🙂

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                DMytro @Djordje S
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                @djordje-s it kinda makes sense then. The algo needs a couple of weeks to stabilise.

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                  Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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                  @dmytro In that case I will continue to monitor and try with more running exercises…Thank you all for prompt support and reply. 🙂

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                    PENNACNP Bronze Member @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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                    @theguyfromthesummit thanks for the reply.

                    I agree, nothing from a watch is going to be as valid or reliable as a controlled test in a lab. That said, I do find some encouragement from the numbers changing over time. Also, I too feel the Fenix is more accurate given my resting HR, training volume, and general health, but I can’t prove it.

                    Overall, I mostly run by perceived effort - for better or worse…

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                    • MiniForkliftM Offline
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                      Mine has been 52.9 for as long as I can remember despite obvious losses and gains in fitness. I don’t know if there’s a glitch on my S9B or it’s just never really worked from the outset

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                        v.sacre Silver Members
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                        We all know that walking activities have a bad effect on VO2Max calculated by Suunto/Firstbeat.

                        I would strongly suggest to be able to turn off VO2Max calculation before launching an activity on the watch!

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                          DMytro @v.sacre
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                          @v-sacre yup, that would be very helpful. For hiking as well.

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                            Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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                            @dmytro Well I doubt that Suunto will improve algo related to VO2max for S9 as probably all efforts will go for further models but to introduce few opyions like disable/enable would be nice

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                              Djordje S Bronze Member @Djordje S
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                              @djordje-s Definetly with running VO2max is increasing. That leaves a question. If VO2max is measured only with walking and running and if it is not reliable for walking, it means that 50% of this feature is useless 🙂

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                                TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Djordje S
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                                @djordje-s it definitely is.
                                Now my watch says 49 but actually my VO2max according to a lab test is 56…

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                                  DMytro @Djordje S
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                                  @djordje-s hiking also measures V02max, but it’s even worse than walking, since vertical gain isn’t accounted for.
                                  I don’t run due to injury, while still doing quite a bit of endurance sports, and seeing my V02MAX at 28.6 is kinda frustrating.

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                                    Djordje S Bronze Member @DMytro
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                                    @dmytro I understand you 🙂 For me it is also frustrating to see that you are exercising and not able to see any progress. I don’t expect to be superfit but at least I exepct to see some increase 🙂

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                                      sartoric Moderator @Djordje S
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                                      @djordje-s said in VO2max:

                                      I don’t expect to be superfit but at least I exepct to see some increase

                                      An you can’t if the Vo2Max isn’t correct ?

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                                      • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                                        Brad_Olwin Moderator @TheGuyFromTheSummit
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                                        @theguyfromthesummit said in VO2max:

                                        @djordje-s it definitely is.
                                        Now my watch says 49 but actually my VO2max according to a lab test is 56…

                                        Interesting, my lab tests are 56-58 and the watch is 45-49 typically with very hard workouts. Easy workouts I am 42-46

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                                        • TheGuyFromTheSummitT Offline
                                          TheGuyFromTheSummit Silver Members @Brad_Olwin
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                                          @brad_olwin
                                          Good to hear, that I am not the only one 🙂

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                                          • cosme.costaC Offline
                                            cosme.costa
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                                            Form my findings, if you want to have a nice VO2max you have to run at around 75/80% of your max in a flattish terrain. I mean, if I run hard my VO2max do not increase, even goes down some tenths, if I go too easy it goes down quite abruptly, but if I run at nice pace keeping my HR quite stable and as low as possible it goes up or it stays in the high values.

                                            Another way to increase the VO2max is play a little bit with your HR zones 😇

                                            BTW, I haven’t read any paper from Firsbeat about how they calculate VO2max, I lost the interest on it. It’s nice to have a high VO2max regarding self-pride but from the moment that you do a technical trail running where your pace is low and your HR goes up and down all the time and you are performing at your best and then VO2max goes down some points it’s not really useful, at least for me. So, I decided not to put much effort in it.

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