Running, cadence, and too little steps. Please share your data

[juhis70]

“Funny” thing about the bad steps counter in my watch: while walking, if I go to the watch screen that shows the steps, the step count increases every step (sometimes there is a lag at beginning, then it adds several steps). It does not any skip any steps, even when I hold my arm in front of me looking at the watch (i.e. not waving arm). That is nice, almost like magic.

But when the watch is not in the “steps screen”; it apparently doses off occassionally and forgets to count the steps while I’m walking. This is not nice.

[Aaurakkio]

hei @juhis70 ,

wierd thing you are facing there.

On my watch the measures correspond quite nicely and the steps from watch are just slightly below the calculated by cadence (see 5 random activies from last 6 weeks):

FYI, I keep my S5 on inside left wrist and constantly on the default view (during the activities).

Given the information, I wonder whether your issue could be either:

1. something defective in your specific watch; or
2. how you hold the watch and how you move your arm.

[juhis70]

@aaurakkio Hi, thanks for your reply and data. Your values are really accurate, I’d “buy” that, unlike my tens of percents wrong step counts. I don’t think my arm movement is very uncommon, my previous activity bracelet counted (can still count) my steps very precicely. And S5 can count steps even when I hold the watch in front of me and look at the step counter. It starts failing only when I’m not observing it…

[Harald Värs]

My wife bought the S5 few years ago and end up frustrated because she felt that no matter how much she moved during normal day she could barely get the activity/steps for the day. That felt quite odd and we changed watches (my polar to shes S5). I experienced same problems but didn’t have time to investigate any further. Now I had a change to compare directly 2 devices at the same time with Oura ring and picture shows that our earlier experiences might have some truth behind them. Now I fount this thread after searching similar cases online and feel like there might be some correlation here with @juhis70.

[Egika]

@harald-värs maybe no correlation. Your numbers should rather be the interpretation of steps.
Oura counting every single foot and Suunto the cadence (left+right foot)

[Harald Värs]

@egika Fair point, thank you.
Does anyone know then if Suunto is one of few that counts steps like this, because I’ve used to measure healthy active day around 10k mark on steps and what devices I’ve used in past are somewhat on par with data that Oura gives here. Seems just little weird for me, that’s all.
Sorry going little off topic here.

[juhis70]

@harald-värs Thanks for your reply. Steps are single foot steps in Suunto’s world, too. Every step is/should be counted.

When talking about cadence, Suunto uses revolutions (right + left foot) per minute (rpm), while many others use steps per minute (spm). Some think that ideal running cadence is 180 spm, or 90 rpm.

If Oura counts the steps correctly, there’s definitely something wrong with also your S5’s steps. At about same ratio as in mine, my S5 counts around 60 % of my steps (running and walking).

[Dimitrios Kanellopoulos]

@harald-värs Suunto 5 and Suunto 3 only have a context engine that doesn’t over count steps from washing dishes or tapping on the floor with your legs or typing. Others will. Including oura.

[Harald Värs]

@dimitrios-kanellopoulos
OK, thanks. Things start to make more sense now on my part.

[Anna Morral]

@juhis70

I’m facing a similar situation with the steps recorded.

I am undergoing rehabilitation after a hip surgery and I have been cleared to walk outdoors using crutches whilst tracking pace, time and distance.

Everyday I walk the same route, and the first 3-4 weeks the device was registering similar values like my previous activity band and Apple Health.

However, since about 2 weeks ago, the step counting has decreased significantly, the steps on Apple Health and the activity band remain as they did before.

Is there any calibration process I should consider?

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