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    Suunto 9 Baro total ascent vs. other watches

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    • freeheelerF Offline
      freeheeler @sky-runner
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      @sky-runner
      I always wonder how the organizers measure the vertical gain? Did they use a watch, too? Or is this based on a specific planning tool with topo maps? obviously all devices measured less ascent… that sounds a bit suspicious 🤔

      the future should be like this: 2 independent sensors that measure the pressure and communicate to find the average, supervised by a 3rd sensor and corrected by GPS FusedAlti if required 😀 👍

      living sideways

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        Patrick Löffler Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Good to hear. DCRainmaker also mentioned he received a firmware update to improve the open water swimming. So this upcoming update is already rich in content. When can we expect it?

        Apple Watch Ultra (currently on my wrist)
        Thinking about going back to Suunto 9 Peak

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        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Patrick Löffler
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          @patrick-löffler typically Suunto releases SW update at fall

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          • Patrick LöfflerP Offline
            Patrick Löffler Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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            @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Thanks. I knew you would answer that but hoped for e.g. 2nd September. 😊 I am super excited about that one. Looking forward to the better total ascent algo and hopefully a fix for the body resources.

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              dombo Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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              @dimitrios-kanellopoulos will this new algo bring some update on quick elevation change? personally I see calculation of elevation gain (finding local minimal/maximal elevation) OK for walking/slow running, but for fast cycling on “wavy” roads/trails it cuts out a lot. also vertical speed is kinda delayed and averaged too much for me.

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              • BulkanB Offline
                Bulkan Moderator @dombo
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                @dombo I think so.

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                • Łukasz SzmigielŁ Offline
                  Łukasz Szmigiel @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                  @dimitrios-kanellopoulos is the algo update valid for baro-enabled devices only or non-baro as well?

                  S9PP 2.40.44

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                  • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                    Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Łukasz Szmigiel
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                    @łukasz-szmigiel only baro

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                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @dombo
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                      @dombo yes

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                        dombo Bronze Member @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos perfect! I can not wait for new FW, even it will take some weeks for me to recover from injury to test it 🙂

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                        • surfboomerangS Offline
                          surfboomerang
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                          Suunto World Vertical Week is near…😏

                          Suunto Vertical Titanium Solar
                          OnePlus Nord 4

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                          • Brad_OlwinB Offline
                            Brad_Olwin Moderator @sky-runner
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                            @sky-runner Good list, interesting that the Sony chip is common to all under-reporting. As @Dimitrios-Kanellopoulos said there are improvements for gain/loss coming.

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                            • sky-runnerS Offline
                              sky-runner Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                              @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Glad to hear that and a strong reason to consider a Suunto watch again.

                              Now, while we are there, please allow first day of week to be changed from the locale default too.

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                              • sky-runnerS Offline
                                sky-runner Silver Members @freeheeler
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                                @freeheeler I don’t know, but this is an established race with 23 years of history. The way I’ve done that in the past myself is that I loaded an elevation graph, zoomed to it, and manually added ascent from all climbs. That takes time but produces the most accurate result. That requires an accurate altimeter and a calm weather without a strong wind when recording the run.

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                                • MiniForkliftM Offline
                                  MiniForklift Platinum Member @sky-runner
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                                  @sky-runner Agreed, I’d love to manually be able to change mine to a Monday. Not particularly a big deal but would be nice!

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                                  • MdzOttM Offline
                                    MdzOtt @dombo
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                                    @dombo it is even worse when downhill skiing.

                                    S9 Baro
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                                    • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                      Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sky-runner
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                                      @sky-runner first day of the week as a setting is now being tested on Android alpha. So that will come in eta 1 month in beta.

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                                        sky-runner Silver Members @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                        @dimitrios-kanellopoulos Perfect! Any plans to release S9P with a larger screen and larger battery? Although I understand you aren’t supposed to share that kind of information. But that is a watch I’d buy in a heartbeat if it has the two fixes mentioned above.

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                                        • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                          Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @sky-runner
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                                          @sky-runner even if I knew I cannot answer that.

                                          I know that Fenix 7 comes January most probably though.

                                          I am sure that in 1y -2 -3y we will see another good model from suunto if I judge from prev releases.

                                          Spartan 2016 , s9 2018 , s9P 2021, then maybe 2023?

                                          If we are talking about something new.

                                          But I think now it’s Garmin’s turn over a flagship.

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                                          • Dimitrios KanellopoulosD Offline
                                            Dimitrios Kanellopoulos Community Manager @Dimitrios Kanellopoulos
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                                            Here is 24x41.5m (last rep was a little higher to reach 1k up) .

                                            No stopping , storm coming in etc.

                                            IMG_20210905_150243~2.jpg

                                            With the old algo due to 41m it would have been around 940m

                                            The algo will come in for the s9p in the next release.

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